[DeTomaso] Fw: (NPC) Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting in your garages?(was: How can this happen in America)

Wed May 27 18:29:05 EDT 2009

It's not fair if taxpayers have to pay for early retirements for some and 
not others.
Will
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Hawkins" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] (NPC) Now,how many of you have import marque cars 
sitting in your garages?(was: How can this happen in America)


> Sure it's fair, where is it written that everyone has to have exactly the
> same anything.  It's jealousy or maybe self pity to think that just 
> because
> someone retires earlier than me that it's not fair.  I'm happy for anyone
> that can retire early but that doesn't mean I don't think they should
> because I can't.  What I want to do is learn from their experience not 
> deny
> them the opportunity.  That's the problem with our society today, everyone
> wants guaranteed results and covets what their neighbor has.  We've grown
> lazy and want to take from those that have and redistribute it because 
> they
> don't deserve to have that much, I mean after all they couldn't have 
> gotten
> where they are honestly.
>
> It's called freedom, free to pursue happiness, freedom of opportunity, 
> free
> from tyranny, free from taxation, freedom from an oppressive government.
> Everyone needs to go back and read the Constitution and the Bill of 
> Rights.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of pantdino at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:25 AM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars 
> sitting
> in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
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> If everyone has their medical care paid for with tax dollars, it would
> be fair
> It's not fair is some people retire at 52 and some at 67
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>
> To: pantdino at aol.com <pantdino at aol.com>; detomaso at realbig.com
> <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 8:38 am
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars
> sitting in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
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> But you don't mind paying for all his medical bills with your tax
> dollars???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of pantdino at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:03 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars
> sitting in
> your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
>
> I don't hate anyone-- I just don't think it's fair and don't want to pay 
> for
> it with my tax bailout dollars.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
> To: pantdino at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 8:55 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars 
> sitting
> in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
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> Don't hate the playa, hate the game. He signed up for a plan that allowed
> him to do that - change the rules...
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> From: "pantdino at aol.com" <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:36:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars 
> sitting
> in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
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> That's my understanding, too. No company can survive paying for full 
> health
> care for its workers and its retirees, especially when they "retire" after
> 30 years. A friend's brother retired at 52 with full health care for the
> rest of his life. How can they afford that? They can't, as we have now
> learned.
>
> Why should he be able to retire at 52 when the rest of us have to work 
> until
> 65 or 67?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>
> To: de tomaso digest <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Cc: fresnofinches at aol.com
> Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 5:21 p
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting 
> in
> your  garages? (was: How can this happen in America)
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> i would prefer to buy a car (or anything, for that matter), from a company
> whose ceo's earn only 30 times what their employees make, instead of 300
> times. ya, i am a pinko commie, remember? so, while i happen to think,
> cars sold in america manufactured by companies who are based in america, 
> do
> not compare, for the most part, to cars made by non-usa owned companies, i
> likely still wouldn't w anna buy them even if i thought they weren't bad
> deals.
>
> but, what is sinking the american auto industry isn't the fact that their
> ceo's are overpaid, or even the fact that their product isn't as good. 
> (way
> too many hillbillies in this country that will buy anything as long as 
> it's
> made in the
> usa.) ;~) it's the fact that the commie pinko auto trade unions were able
> to demand and  get healthcare & retirement packages for themselves. the
> rest of the commie pinko industrialized world, (ya know: france, germany,
> japan, canada - pinko places like that?), well those pinko places all have
> universal health care, so the companies there don't have to pick up the
> tab... if the usa had commie pinko single-payer healthcare, gm & chrysler
> would still be stong & turning a profit... making that dreck... :>)
>
> ymmv,=0
> D
>
> doug s.,
> '72 de tomaso panera
> '78 ducati darmah
> '85.5 alfa romeo gtv6 3.0
> '95 buell s2 (america, love it or leave it! yeah!)
> '04 scion xb
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