[DeTomaso] (NPC) Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)

Steve Hawkins shawkins777 at comcast.net
Wed May 27 18:05:56 EDT 2009


Sure it's fair, where is it written that everyone has to have exactly the
same anything.  It's jealousy or maybe self pity to think that just because
someone retires earlier than me that it's not fair.  I'm happy for anyone
that can retire early but that doesn't mean I don't think they should
because I can't.  What I want to do is learn from their experience not deny
them the opportunity.  That's the problem with our society today, everyone
wants guaranteed results and covets what their neighbor has.  We've grown
lazy and want to take from those that have and redistribute it because they
don't deserve to have that much, I mean after all they couldn't have gotten
where they are honestly.

It's called freedom, free to pursue happiness, freedom of opportunity, free
from tyranny, free from taxation, freedom from an oppressive government.
Everyone needs to go back and read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Steve

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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:25 AM
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in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)


If everyone has their medical care paid for with tax dollars, it would 
be fair
It's not fair is some people retire at 52 and some at 67


-----Original Message-----
From: Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com>
To: pantdino at aol.com <pantdino at aol.com>; detomaso at realbig.com 
<detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wed, 27 May 2009 8:38 am
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sitting in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)



But you don't mind paying for all his medical bills with your tax 
dollars???

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 From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com 
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sitting in
your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)

I don't hate anyone-- I just don't think it's fair and don't want to pay for
it with my tax bailout dollars.


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From: Brent Stewart <bjbstewart at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 8:55 pm
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Don't hate the playa, hate the game.  He signed up for a plan that allowed
him to do that - change the rules...





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From: "pantdino at aol.com" <pantdino at aol.com>
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:36:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting
in your garages? (was: How can this happen in America)


That's my understanding, too.  No company can survive paying for full health
care for its workers and its retirees, especially when they "retire" after
30 years.  A friend's brother retired at 52 with full health care for the
rest of his life. How can they afford that? They can't, as we have now
learned.

Why should he be able to retire at 52 when the rest of us have to work until
65 or 67?





-----Original Message-----
From: doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com>
To: de tomaso digest <detomaso at realbig.com>
Cc: fresnofinches at aol.com
Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 5:21 p
m
Subject: [DeTomaso] Now, how many of you have import marque cars sitting in
your  garages? (was: How can this happen in America)










i would prefer to buy a car (or anything, for that matter), from a company
whose ceo's earn only 30 times what their employees make, instead of 300
times.  ya, i am a pinko commie, remember?  so, while i happen to think,
cars sold in america manufactured by companies who are based in america, do
not compare, for the most part, to cars made by non-usa owned companies, i
likely still wouldn't w anna buy them even if i thought they weren't bad
deals.

but, what is sinking the american auto industry isn't the fact that their
ceo's are overpaid, or even the fact that their product isn't as good.  (way
too many hillbillies in this country that will buy anything as long as it's
made in the
usa.)  ;~)  it's the fact that the commie pinko auto trade unions were able
to demand and  get healthcare & retirement packages for themselves.  the
rest of the commie pinko industrialized world, (ya know:  france, germany,
japan, canada - pinko places like that?), well those pinko places all have
universal health care, so the companies there don't have to pick up the
tab...  if the usa had commie pinko single-payer healthcare, gm & chrysler
would still be stong & turning a profit...  making that dreck...  :>)

ymmv,=0
D

doug s.,
'72 de tomaso panera
'78 ducati darmah
'85.5 alfa romeo gtv6 3.0
'95 buell s2 (america, love it or leave it!  yeah!)
'04 scion xb




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