[DeTomaso] OT! Temporary tags at Silver State Classic Challenge!

[Charles McCall]

Bjoern - another point of view...

European and American police have different policies regarding foreigners,
based on extensive field testing ;-)

In the US, if the police find you guilty of a minor traffic infraction, the
process can eventually lead to you pleading guilty or innocent at some
future date, when you can either fight the ticket or pay your fine. Police
policy may vary widly within the US, but at least in the Eastern part, if
you will not be in the country for enough time to go through the process and
defend yourself, the police let you go with only a warning. I've been
stopped for speeding in the US, um, a couple of times, and showing a
European residence card and drivers license, they gave me a speech about
American speed limits and let me go. 

In Europe, they have a different approach. They KNOW you are guilty as hell,
and will drive you to the nearest ATM and require you to pay on the spot, if
they think you may not be around to complete the process. I have yet to talk
my way out of a ticket in Europe, something rather common in the US.

In the end you'll need to decide for yourself whether to drive before you
have proof of current registration, but I think the risk is very small.
Unless your license plate is bright orange, a color that was phased our 17
years ago, or there is some other extremely obvious sign that your plates
are expired, I don't think the police will bother you unless you do
something wrong. 

That said, there is always the risk that a police car could come up behind
you at a stoplight and see the date - they may look for such things. 

I don't know where "expired registration" falls legally, but for many minor
infractions (taillight out, no front license plate, etc) they give you 30
days to fix the problem and the ticket goes away. So providing proof of
already having paid, the cop would have to be having a REALLLY bad day to
give you problems. 

That could always happen, and I won't come visit you in jail if I'm wrong
;-) but it it were me, I would drive it anyway. 

Charles McCall
1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
"Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
nombre de Bjoern Flesland
Enviado el: lunes, 11 de mayo de 2009 15:14
Para: MikeLDrew at aol.com
CC: detomaso-owner at realbig.com; panteralist; detomaso at realbig.com
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] OT! Temporary tags at Silver State Classic Challenge!

Hi Mike,
Thanks for chiming in. Yes, over here in Europe you will be pulled
over at once if they notice out of date plates or tags. They will then
remove the plates from car and confiscate them. You can not drive the
car without plates.
So what you are saying is that the only risk I take is a ticket?
How much will that eventually be?
Can I still drive off after the meeting with the deputy?
I am only to drive in Nevada.
Cheers,
Bjoern


On 5/11/09, MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/10/09 23 45 20, bflesland at gmail.com writes:
>
>
> A workmate suggested that maybe the police can help?
> Maybe they can issue/release some kind of golden paperwork so I can
> drive the car without actuallly having received the reg card+ tags?
> So if I get pulled over by an eager deputy and he check his police
> computer, he will see that I am ok...
> What do you think?
>
>
> There are millions and millions of cars on US roads that have no proper
> tags, no insurance, no nothing.  In Europe, the police would set up a
firing
> squad for such an offense, but unfortunately here, they don't really care
> much.  They will pull over a car for speeding, find out the driver has no
> insurance, and the car isn't registered, and they'll just write him a
ticket
> and then let him drive away anyway!  It makes me crazy.
>
> But that's good news for you.  I would feel perfectly comfortable with all
> the documentation you now have.  You own the car, and can prove that.  It
> has valid insurance.  You have made the effort to get the car registered,
> and can probably prove that too.  So at the very worst, you might get a
> short lecture from a police officer--and that's if he stops you.
>
> I say relax, and just sleep well and get ready to have a lot of fun next
> week! :>)
>
> Mike
>
>
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