[DeTomaso] The Clutch in 5533

[asajay at asajay.com]

So I found a place in Spokane that can clean up the surface on my  
flywheel ($25), send the pressure plate out to their sister company in  
Portland, OR, have it disassembled, surfaced, checked re-assembled and  
sent back ($277), and replace the friction material on the disc ($80).

For about $400, I can have all reconditioned components.  Does that  
sound about right?

Asa Jay

Quoting Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>:

> I've received several emails as of this morning, mostly privately, that
> reflect the same or similar advice as Forest.  I'll be looking for a
> shop here in Spokane that can service clutch parts, not just sell me new
> stuff.
>
> Thank you to everyone who provided insight.... including you Paul.  :)
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
>
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> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
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> forestg at att.net wrote:
>>
>>  Asa,
>> The flywheel has heat checking so I would take it to an automotive   
>> machine shop and see if they can reface it and still have enough   
>> material left. Is there a clutch rebuilding place in Spokane? If so  
>>  I would take the pressure plate to them and have them reface the   
>> pressure ring and rebuild the assembly. If it is the original   
>> pressure plate it should have a steel ring as opposed to cast iron   
>> and would be better rebuilt than a cast new one.
>> Forest
>>  -------------- Original message from Asa Jay Laughton   
>> <asajay at asajay.com>: --------------
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> On the advice of some, since the ZF is out of my Pantera at the moment,
>>> I removed the clutch this evening.  Although the unit had been working
>>> just fine and I believe it would continue working, I am now torn between
>>> that idea and replacing everything based on what I found today.
>>>
>>> I have documented the photos here:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/dycjvj
>>>
>>> The major items are:
>>> - Flywheel surface
>>> - Needle pilot bearing
>>> - Clutch disc wear
>>> - Pressure plate wear
>>>
>>> The flywheel surface appears like it's been roasting clutches.  The
>>> surface otherwise is smooth to the touch and actually begins to clean up
>>> with a scotchbrite-type pad.  The one item that concerns me, if you look
>>> at the zoomed in photo   
>>> here:http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Item
>>> id=57&g2_itemId=2244
>>> you will see what appear to be cracks across the face.  These don't
>>> appear to clean up with the pad.  I need someone with more brains than
>>> me to explain this to me, but I think it best to get a new Flywheel,
>>> which I really didn't want to do (it's a money thing).
>>>
>>> The pilot bearing you will note is a needle bearing style.  The needles
>>> are actually shorter than I imagined and also spaced farther apart than
>>> I would have expected.  The bearing feels good, has no binding, etc.  I
>>> think I'll probably re-use that unless someone convinces me I shouldn't.
>>>
>>> The clutch disc has wear, though not bad.  There is a date stamp of Mar
>>> 9 1984, so it's been a while.  I have another shot near the end of the
>>> album which shows my dial caliper measuring an average .300 thickness.
>>> I have no idea if this is near correct or not.  Since it's out, I should
>>> replace it.
>>>
>>> The Pressure plate needs to be surfaced or replaced.  The photos will
>>> show a worn surface.  I can't catch a finger on any ridges, but I -can-
>>> feel irregularities in the surface.  This will -not- clean up with a
>>> scotchbrite pad.  You can also see some part number (maybe) stamped in
>>> the housing, MODEL 11CF  (or IICF).  Another stamping is something like
>>> 1(or something)W8.
>>>
>>> So...
>>> - Should I replace the flywheel?
>>> - Should I replace the pressure plate or just have it resurfaced?
>>> - Should I replace the pilot bearing?
>>> - Does my disc appear to be about the correct thickness?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>
>>> & Shelley Marie
>>> Spokane, WA
>>>
>>> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
>>> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
>>>
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>>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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