[DeTomaso] Dog Bone (B & M) air cleaner

Tue Mar 10 10:17:32 EDT 2009

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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: adin at frontier.net
Cc: JDeRyke at aol.com; deTomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:48:02 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dog Bone (B & M) air cleaner

I really like my Holley HiTek/B&M "Dog Bone" type air filter assembly, thus
far no complaints of being down on power with it, but no sustained 5,500 rpm
jaunts either, I suspect as stated here that were I to do something like an
ORR with the car that i would indeed add a 3/4-1" spacer between the bottom
of the unit and the carb to simply reduce turbulence if nothing else.  On
the street with my Yates tunnel ram intake, rear vision is already
compromised, adding another inch would make the rear view mirror virtually
useless.  If you check out my website (www.michaelspantera.com) you will see
that mine started life as a polished unit new out of the box, while many of
you like the "Bling" factor, I thought that it was simply too much for the
car as it stole focus from the rear of the car.  I have always thought that
a Pantera's best angle was from the rear 3/4 view where the rear fenders and
low roof form that Cat-like "Pouncing attitude".  So I sanded the polish off
using 400 grit sandpaper, sprayed it with primer for aluminum and then
applied 3 coats of black wrinkle paint to make the unit match the valve
cover finish, I also think it helps that my block is black and should the
opportunity present itself, I may very well wrinkle or wrinkle powder coat (
does that exist? ) the bell housing and ZF and use S/S acorn nuts to dress
it up.  I like the Heavy Duty, High Tech appearance more than "Bling", but
that's what great about our cars, they can be easily changed to suit ever
owner, from stock, to Bling to Black to Gold Plated.

I really like the Spectre unit referenced in an earlier version of this
thread ( page 32 of the Summitt Catalog ) , unfortunately it looks like I
can't use that either as a result of the intake being so tall. But that
would look so sweet in black wrinkle.  I don't see why the same design
couldn't be done easily in CF, that would be the best possible version using
a set of conical K & N filters from a Mustang or Excusrion Hyper charger
kit.

Michael in Savannah

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <adin at frontier.net> wrote:

>
> Jack, and all . . .
>
> Yes, the flow is not the filtration, but the sharp turn the air must
> make.  Haven't we seen folks double up the filters (both sides 2x
> elements)???
>
> As far as airflow is concerned: one cannot have tooo much.  this has
> been demonstrated with the supercharged toyota (have you cut your
> airbox, Jack?), the Kirkham w/ webers and now the 460 powered truck
> (with 5" of vacuum it is a little sensitive to tuning).
>
> Personally, I'd let the motor breathe rather than have a cool engine
> cover - just my OPINION.
>
> thanks for the note.
>
> David
>
>
> Quoting JDeRyke at aol.com:
>
> > In a message dated 3/9/09 5:33:25 PM, adin at frontier.net writes:
> >
> >> Seems there was some question about the flow with these puppies . . .
> >>
> > Thats a question that's come up repeatedly in the last 10-12 years,
> David,
> > and the flow restriction is not the reuseable K & N filters on the ends.
> It
> > seems to be the 90 degree turn from the plenum between the two side
> > filters to the
> > carb throat(s). If the inside of of the plenum is too close to the carb
> top,
> > the turn is too sharp and airflow will be restricted. Some are and some
> > aren't, according to their owners, and a lot of the flow restriction
> >  will only occur
> > at higher rpms. I've seen at least one type that needed a 3/4" high
> spacer to
> > allow 5500 rpms in one Pantera. If you drive sedately, any dogbone will
> work
> > just fine.   Besides this possibility, the B&M at least is a heavy
> > cast-aluminum unit weighing over 8 lbs, with the weight about as
> > high-mounted as
> > possible. For comparison, a 14" Moroso air cleaner with
> > sheet-aluminum top & bottoms
> > weighs 1-1/2 lbs and has more filter area.... if you can make it fit.
> FWIW- J
> > DeRyke
> >
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