[DeTomaso] Pandora's about to turn ugly

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 29 18:15:12 EDT 2009


UM,
  
    I just do patents and trademarks, I don't get into litigation.  But I do know what a mess it can be from what some of our clients have gone through.  There is nothing fair about it.  The outcome often depends on rules and procedures more than reality, and the real truth is not the issue, the allowed evidence and the presentation determines the outcome.  It WILL drive you nuts.
 
Ken

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Art Stephens <artstephens at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Art Stephens <artstephens at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's about to turn ugly
To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>, "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 3:04 PM


Chris,
    Ken recommends not getting and attorney and get this, Ken is an attorney!

Art


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>; "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's about to turn ugly


> Chris,
> 
> I guess I have a different approach. Getting an attorney involved may cost serious bucks. Having an attorney send a letter may just really tick off these guys, and they may do something stupid out of anger. It might be better to get a promise of a delivery date you can live with, and if it isn't delivered, rent a truck and go get your car. It's not fair to you to have to pick up pieces, but if you get into a legal fight with these guys, it may just be a lot of grief and STRESS. Going into court is almost always a miserable costly experience. And even if you get a judgment, it's a pain to collect. AND, you will feel a lot better when you have your car back.
> 
> If they failed to deliver, and that causes you expenses (the truck, bills from another mechanic, etc.) you can always take them to small claims court AFTER you have your stuff back.
> 
> Ken
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
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> 
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pandora's about to turn ugly
> To: "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 12:20 PM
> 
> 
> 
> First, thanks to all of you who have expressed helpful opinions about my poor missing Pantera (which isn't really missing now, since I know it's location, but it's missing from my garage, nonetheless).
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> 
> Today I called the engine builder one final time (the place where I dropped it off almost 8 weeks ago) and told him I finally met his mechanic friend who has the car. I told him I was not really confident in the mechanic's abilities, let alone timeliness, and I wanted the car back by Thursday.
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> He apologized profusely about the situation and said he wished he'd never used Randy (the mechanic).
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> Here's where it turns ugly.
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> He said he would try calling Randy, but when I pressed that I wanted my car delivered to my house by Thursday, either together or in pieces, he said he had no way to get it. He sounded irritated that I would expect him to do anything more than try to call Randy, especially when I told him he should just do what I had to do on Saturday, namely physically drive out to Randy's house. (Randy, as you'll remember, has a penchanct for ignoring phone calls).
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> He seemed to indicated that since I had talked to Randy, now it was my problem. I gave him Randy's home address and suggested he hire a flatbed to get me my car back.
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> I'm speaking with an attorney tomorrow at 3:30 PM.
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> Sincerely,
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> Chris
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