[DeTomaso] thermostats

Wed Jun 24 18:06:50 EDT 2009

Maybe just drop it into her deep fryer before the next batch of potato fries go in ;>)

Julian

> From: artstephens at verizon.net
> To: guson at home.se; doug at silicondesigns.com; Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se; charlesmccall at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:50:29 -0700
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] thermostats
> 
> " I'd suggest boiling the thermostat in e.g. oil that has a boiling temp 
> higher than water."
> 
> Just don't let the oil boil over into the flame. I would imagine the 
> wife would be pissed if you burned the house down. :-))
> 
> Art
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Doug Braun" <doug at silicondesigns.com>
> > To: "Thomas Tornblom" <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se>; "Charles McCall" 
> > <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> > Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] thermostats
> >
> >
> >> Thomas,
> >>
> >> The four brands of 351W thermostat I've tried were drastically different
> >> from each other in how far they extend when hot. For those using a 351W
> >> T-stat in a 351C it's quite plausible that the longest of them will hit a
> >> "freeze plugged" orifice in a 351C block when hot which will prevent them
> >> from fully opening. If you don't have access to a good thermometer, 
> >> measure
> >> the thermostat in boiling water to check how far it extends and compare 
> >> that
> >> to the space available in the block. Better yet, place the thermostat in 
> >> an
> >> oven with a metal ruler alongside, take the temperature up to about 250F,
> >> and see if it extends further at 240F than it does at 212F. Don't to too
> >> hot though; some thermostats have a fail-safe design where they 
> >> permanently
> >> stick open when overheated.
> >>
> >> Doug Braun
> >> blue 73L #5505
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> >> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Tornblom
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:05 PM
> >> To: Charles McCall
> >> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] thermostats
> >>
> >>
> >> Charles McCall skrev:
> >>> Jack, didn't you find about 5 years ago or so that there was something
> >> funky
> >>> with your thermostat housing or some part of the cooling system that
> >>> physically sideloaded the thermostat causing your premature failures?
> >>
> >> I found that the windsor style thermostat would hit the freeze plug that
> >> was installed instead of the plate in my original motor when it opened
> >> fully. Over time that made the thermostat crooked so that it didn't work
> >> properly after a while.
> >>
> >> The thermostat sits a bit low in the block, and if one blocks off the
> >> warmup passage, it would probably be a good idea to install a spacer
> >> under the thermostat so that it has plenty of space to operate.
> >>
> >> I do think that blocking the passage and using a remote bypass
> >> thermostat is probably the best solution to the problem.
> >>
> >> I'm now using a proper block plate and a proper Cleveland Robertshaw
> >> thermostat, and I haven't had any problems with it.
> >>
> >> Oh, btw Charlie, your suggestion about shimming the steering rack may in
> >> fact be a good advice. I took it for a drive this afternoon, and I now
> >> notice a distinct play in the steering wheel with the wheels pointing
> >> straight.
> >>
> >> Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Annually failing thermostats aren't one of the traits that Panteras are
> >>> known for... I hate to tempt fate, but I've never had one go bad, and my
> >>> current Robert Shaw is 9 years old.. It would make me think that there 
> >>> is
> >>> something specific in your application as opposed to the root cause 
> >>> being
> >>> the thermostat per se...
> >>>
> >>> Then again maybe I imagined it, but I thought I remembered you saying 
> >>> that
> >> a
> >>> light bulb came on several years ago while re-hashing the cooling 
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> Charles McCall
> >>> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> >>> "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
> >>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
> >>> -----Mensaje original-----
> >>> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> >>> En
> >>> nombre de JDeRyke at aol.com
> >>> Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de junio de 2009 20:06
> >>> Para: cengles at cox.net
> >>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> >>> Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] thermostats
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 6/24/09 6:28:06 AM, cengles at cox.net writes:
> >>>
> >>>> I am very interested. Is it possible that you've hit on one of the most
> >>>> elusive factors in the variability (or unpredictability?) of Pantera
> >>> cooling
> >>>> systems-----the unassuming "correct" thermostat??? Publish that article
> >>>> soon.
> >>>>
> >>> OK. My interest is, although I can use about any old thermostat in our
> >>> 351C- even ones for Chevys, they only last 1 year before they start that
> >>> cycling
> >>> between full-open and full-closed that someone wrote about. While its 
> >>> only
> >>> annoying, its an expense and a chore I can do without. Cheers- J Deryke
> >>>
> >>>
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