[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 59, Issue 18-Camero-Ford

Charles Engles cengles at cox.net
Thu Jun 18 21:09:15 EDT 2009


Dear Chris,


            So what is the Pantera and engine status?


                         Sorry to bring up a sore subject,  Chuck  Engles




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
To: <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; <jderyke at aol.com>; <rcbsons1 at aol.com>; "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 59, Issue 18-Camero-Ford



While we're talking about going 140, I did that in my Magnum on the way to the Fun Rally--and it was still pulling.  I ran out of road before I ran out of speed!

 

The track was fun too, but the guy ahead of me wouldn't keep up with Mike Drew, so I was stifled since I couldn't pass.

 

Sincerely,

 

Chris (still wishing I could have been driving my Pantera)

 


 
> From: julian_kift at hotmail.com
> To: jderyke at aol.com; rcbsons1 at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:09:41 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 59, Issue 18-Camero-Ford
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> Maybe I missed the first part of this discussion? Larry called me last night and said he thought he was doing 140 mph based on his tach showing 4,000 rpm and him being in 4th. I said that speed smells like BS and fed the data into the ZF gear calculator and came up with 97 mph based on his 3.77 R&P and 27" dia. tires. 
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> I don't know the exact speed I was doing other than +100, my eyes were on the road not the speedo or tach, I new Larry was on my right rear corner so I kept left to provide enough room for us to go through the second corner of the esses two wide if necessary. Larry lost the rear end right on a transition of pavement and all I saw from there was a red blur and dust. I'm eagerly waiting for someone to provide the video that is supposed to be out there from a couple sources.
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> So yes in hindsight I admit that it was a late move on my part, but Larry could easily have given up the place too, after all I was considerably quicker than him, especially in that section of the track (to the point of lapping him in the Friday am sessions).
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> Limited seat time is correct - wait till I come back next year :>)
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> Julian
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> > From: JDeRyke at aol.com
> > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:04:43 -0400
> > To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 59, Issue 18-Camero-Ford
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> > Larry said his rpms were 4000 in 4th, equating (with his tires) to 140 at 
> > the fastest point he had time to look- before he went soil-sampling. Julian 
> > claims about 100 at the same point; dunno how Ultima picks up the speedo 
> > drive or whether they're typically accurate. Gotta remember, Julan's only got 
> > limited seat-time in the thing,too. He bought it used, blew the engine and 
> > only got it back a few weeks ago. FWIW- J Deryke
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