[DeTomaso] Fw: Elephant ears and air temp

[Will Demelo]

> My air temp sensor is just behind the rear glass beside the distributor. I 
> read 169 deg at idle and expected it to lower considerably at speed. It 
> only went down to 160 deg at hiway speed.
> I got 430 ft/lb torque at the wheels without fine tuning and know there's 
> more if I cool the air.
> Will
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <asajay at asajay.com>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Elephant ears
>
>
>> Here is a photo of the stock undercar location on my 1973.
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=2545
>>
>> The photo is taken from the passenger side rear, looking forward and
>> slightly to the drivers side.  This is all that's left on my car.
>> Above this would normally be a flexible hose that went to the square
>> inlet on the air cleaner snorkel.  So the cold air intake was taking
>> air from just in front of and to the left of the right rear tire.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Quoting MikeLDrew at aol.com:
>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 6/17/09 11 17 0, wdemelo at cogeco.ca writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Who sells elephant ear scoops for the rear quarter windows? Are they 
>>>> all
>>>> the same or are some bigger than others? I'm looking for some that 
>>>> don't
>>>> stick out too far. And yes, I know that they need to stick out to get 
>>>> the
>>>> "ram air" effect, but I'm more concerned about the access to cool air.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are several different models.   The large ones have been copied 
>>> and
>>> re-copied, and are available in fiberglass and carbon fiber.   They do 
>>> work
>>> well, but are ugly, and block vision to the rear, which can be critical 
>>> in
>>> lane-changes.
>>>
>>> There are several different lower-profile scoops out there; their 
>>> utility
>>> is questionable.   While the large ones do stick out large enough to 
>>> have a
>>> noticeable ram air function, the small ones are in a low pressure area, 
>>> and
>>> tuft tests have actually showed air coming OUT of that region rather 
>>> than in!
>>>
>>> If you're looking for a source for quality cool air, you're probably 
>>> better
>>> off following the factory example and taking the air from under the car.
>>> Early Panteras had the air cleaner snorkel pointing back towards the 
>>> left
>>> rear tire, but later on the snorkel was pointed towards the passenger 
>>> seat,
>>> and connected to an air scoop at the bottom of the engine bay with 
>>> flexible
>>> ducting.   Ugly, but probably quite effective.   An aux air valve 
>>> (vacuum
>>> operated) was located at the 9 o'clock position (facing the gas
>>> tank) on the air
>>> cleaner, and would open to admit additional air when necessary.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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