[DeTomaso] headlight rings/brakes
Tomas Gunnarsson
guson at home.se
Wed Jun 17 04:48:56 EDT 2009
Actually Wilwood seems to supply both hydraulic/mechanical calipers http://www.wilwood.org/fl192.pdf and disc/drum combinnation brake systems http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Pages/12/index.asp. I doubt that the latter would fit the rear of our cars unless you spaced the rotor away from the upright substantially. The Pantera Si uses a drum type parking brake as far as I remember though. I know what Mike means, I saw the UK calipers online a while back and I think they were modified Wilwoods.
Tomas
----- Original Message -----
From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: <boyd411 at gmail.com>
Cc: <JDeRyke at aol.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] headlight rings/brakes
> In a message dated 6/16/09 19 57 53, boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
>
>
>> Mike, That would be perfect for me. I could finally take advantage of my
>> 20/20 hindsight!
>>
>>>>HAHAHAHA!!!
>
>
>> By the way did you get the headlight rings i sent you?
>>
>>>>Got them today, thanks!
>
> Now, I need to figure out exactly what to do with them. The fellow in
> Europe who I thought asked me to get some for him (above and beyond the two
> sets I got and already sent to Stephane Bergeron) now says that he doesn't need
> them.
>
> Doesn't *somebody* in Europe who is on this forum need a good set of chrome
> headlight rings?
>
>
>> And while I have your undivided attention do you know which wilwood brake
>> kit is the appropeiate one for use on upgrading a Pantera with over size
>> wheels? 17" x 9.5 front and 18" x 12" rear . ( I need the one withe the
>> parking brake feature) Do you think the wilwood is the best choice for an
>> upgrade?
>>
>>>>Best for what? Driving on the track? Driving on the street?
> Meeting a specific budget? Those are different challenges.
>
> I wouldn't bother wasting my time and trying to kluge together a homemade
> brake setup yourself. Others have done so with apparent success (I say this
> because Chris Difani's Porsche 911-based Brembo setup looks absolutely
> awesome, but he hasn't actually driven the car yet to verify function) but unless
> you are a professional or have access to your own machine shop (like Chris
> does), you'd be wasting a lot of time and would likely be disappointed with
> the results.
>
> If you are looking for excellent street brakes, it's tough to beat the
> Corvette-based package that Bobby Byars sells. It is relatively cheap,
> appropriate for 17-inch or larger wheels, has an integral parking brake, and has
> the advantage of OEM quality which ensures function even after years and years
> of owner neglect.
>
> I have a middle-of-the-line Wilwood package from Dennis Quella on my car,
> and I love it. He offers an entry-level setup which uses Wilwood calipers
> on the stock cast-iron rotors; this is probably just fine for tooling around
> LonGYland, but would probably suffer if you really started beating on the
> car on a racetrack. My middle-level package worked just fine at some pretty
> elevated speeds on the track, but I'm not pushing them anywhere near their
> potential due to the low coefficient of friction of my stock, crusty tires.
> My system has some really cheap (albeit 1.25 inch thick) rotors too, which
> have warped twice and have longevity issues (although they seem to be fine
> at the moment).
>
> When and if it becomes necessary to replace my rotors I will definitely opt
> for better-quality Wilwood rotors, which are more expensive, for a reason.
>
> Larry Stock's Sierra brake setup, and the Wilwood-based setups of Marino
> Perna, Steve Wilkinson and Gary Hall are all broadly similar to one another;
> all of them are excellent. None, however, incorporate a parking brake.
>
> Geoff Peters in London recently discovered a brake manufacturer in the UK
> that makes a really meaty four-piston caliper which incorporates a built-in
> (as opposed to added-on) parking brake. The caliper is about the same size
> as a large Wilwood caliper, and will clear even 15-inch wheels, and probably
> uses the standard Wilwood-type brake pads. But having the parking brake
> built in is a huge plus.
>
> He's mentioned them to Dennis Quella, who may be intrigued enough to start
> importing them here. The challenge is getting brackets custom-made to
> adapt them to the Pantera upright--hard for you, simple for the vendors!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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