[DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera - Aston?

[Steve Hawkins]

What about a Ford V10 gas engine, it's the same cubes as a Ford 400 and
about the same length.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of michael frazier
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:09 AM
To: scott black; boyd411 at gmail.com; pantera list
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera - Aston?



I would think any 12 of sufficient grunt would be too long except for a W
configuration.  In my opinion once the original

Cleveland is out then the barn door is wide open.  I would never do a Ford
Mod motor...way too huge on the outside and too small on the inside.  If I
don't go back with a Cleveland I would only consider an LS motor.  A
1,2,3,6,7 or 9 would all 

work well.

Michael...starting to rethink this engine rebuild, hmmmmmmm
 
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:14:23 -0700
> From: timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera - Aston?
> 
> 
> What about the V12 in the Aston Martin DB9 and DBS? Isn't it based on 
> the Ford family, too?
> 
> Scott Black
> TimePiece Public Relations
> Dallas - Houston - New York
> www.timepiecepr.com
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Torbjørn Harlem <torbjorn.harlem at elverhoy.no> 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Torbjørn Harlem <torbjorn.harlem at elverhoy.no>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera
> > To: "boyd casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:20 AM
> > Hi.
> > 
> > 
> > I'll think you have to move the rear wheel backwards, because a 12 
> > cylinder engine is much longer than a V8.
> > 
> > The angel of the drive shaft most be so straight ( 90 degree at the 
> > transaxle)as possible because otherwise the axl`s will be rapidly 
> > worn out.
> > 
> > An other option is to use some other transaxle that is "shorter" 
> > like some of the Audi cars have.
> > 
> > The third option must be the Lambo way.
> > Engine mounted across the engine bay.
> > Very few gearboxes to choose from. (That can stand against
> > torque and amount of HP from the engine.)  And a big
> > rebuilt session to.
> > 
> > 
> > If you want a modern V8 you have to look at BMW, Audi, Merc, 
> > Porsche, and the newest Ford have to offer ( Chevy ( Good forbid) is 
> > no option in my eyes)
> > 
> > An if you search it's possible to find even more engines with specs 
> > that will " play at 500 +++ hp"
> > 
> >   Just some thoughts
> > 
> > Torbjorn # 2215
> > 
> > (Sorry for my spelling)   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> > Fra: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com 
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > På vegne av boyd casey
> > Sendt: 16. juni 2009 09:01
> > Til: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Emne: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera
> > 
> > Knowing that some day I will have to rebuild or replace my 351 
> > Cleveland I am always thinking about interesting alternatives to 
> > push rod  based
> > engines. . I am not aware of  many  high
> > horsepower engines with  DOHC and 4
> > valves per cylinder alternatives available to the Pantera.
> > ( aside from the
> > Ford modular engines)  I don't think that I would ever
> > actually attempt
> > starting  with a Mercedes Benz  (they are
> > incredibly expensive to
> > obtain,  maintain
> > and is also  extremely complex .. I don't know if it
> > could be squeezed in
> > but does anyone know of anyone ever attempting to install
> > one of the 6 liter
> > 12 cylinder Mercedes engines from the 600 sl ( that turn
> > out around 620 hp )
> > into a Pantera?
> > 
> > Boyd
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