[DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera - Aston?

Tue Jun 16 11:42:38 EDT 2009

How about the newer 6.1 Hemi found in the Challenger, Charger and Magnum
SRT-8 models.
425 totally stock, I imagine there's another 200 hp to be found and still
maintain street-ability.

Michael in Savannah.

2009/6/16 Göran Malmberg <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>

> Absoluley, the LS engines are all great and light. We are going to use
> one of these in our racing car. However, I wouldn’t put one myself in my
> Pantera, the reason is I find it a bit colourless. 351C is okay, for the
> reason it is original. If I where to replace the engine it has to be
> something different, that really stands out from the mass.
> If one want Hp, a centrifugal compressor 400 sb engine is the way to go.
> Goran
>
>
> I would think any 12 of sufficient grunt would be too long except for a
> W configuration.  In my opinion once the original
>
> Cleveland is out then the barn door is wide open.  I would never do a
> Ford Mod motor...way too huge on the outside and too small on the
> inside.  If I don't go back with a Cleveland I would only consider an LS
> motor.  A 1,2,3,6,7 or 9 would all
>
> work well.
>
> Michael...starting to rethink this engine rebuild, hmmmmmmm
>
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:14:23 -0700
> > From: timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com
> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera - Aston?
> >
> >
> > What about the V12 in the Aston Martin DB9 and DBS? Isn't it based on
> the Ford family, too?
> >
> > Scott Black
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> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Torbjørn Harlem <torbjorn.harlem at elverhoy.no>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Torbjørn Harlem <torbjorn.harlem at elverhoy.no>
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera
> > > To: "boyd casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:20 AM
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll think you have to move the rear wheel backwards,
> > > because a 12 cylinder engine is much longer than a V8.
> > >
> > > The angel of the drive shaft most be so straight ( 90
> > > degree at the transaxle)as possible because otherwise the
> > > axl`s will be rapidly worn out.
> > >
> > > An other option is to use some other transaxle that is
> > > "shorter" like some of the Audi cars have.
> > >
> > > The third option must be the Lambo way.
> > > Engine mounted across the engine bay.
> > > Very few gearboxes to choose from. (That can stand against
> > > torque and amount of HP from the engine.)  And a big
> > > rebuilt session to.
> > >
> > >
> > > If you want a modern V8 you have to look at BMW, Audi,
> > > Merc, Porsche, and the newest Ford have to offer ( Chevy (
> > > Good forbid) is no option in my eyes)
> > >
> > > An if you search it's possible to find even more engines
> > > with specs that will " play at 500 +++ hp"
> > >
> > >   Just some thoughts
> > >
> > > Torbjorn # 2215
> > >
> > > (Sorry for my spelling)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> > > Fra: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > > På vegne av boyd casey
> > > Sendt: 16. juni 2009 09:01
> > > Til: detomaso at realbig.com
> > > Emne: [DeTomaso] 12 cylinder Pantera
> > >
> > > Knowing that some day I will have to rebuild or replace my
> > > 351 Cleveland I
> > > am always thinking about interesting alternatives to push
> > > rod  based
> > > engines. . I am not aware of  many  high
> > > horsepower engines with  DOHC and 4
> > > valves per cylinder alternatives available to the Pantera.
> > > ( aside from the
> > > Ford modular engines)  I don't think that I would ever
> > > actually attempt
> > > starting  with a Mercedes Benz  (they are
> > > incredibly expensive to
> > > obtain,  maintain
> > > and is also  extremely complex .. I don't know if it
> > > could be squeezed in
> > > but does anyone know of anyone ever attempting to install
> > > one of the 6 liter
> > > 12 cylinder Mercedes engines from the 600 sl ( that turn
> > > out around 620 hp )
> > > into a Pantera?
> > >
> > > Boyd
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