[DeTomaso] The End of the Affair...

Tue Jun 9 15:42:30 EDT 2009

Here on long island where  I live they have mini car shows everynight of the
week. They are in different neighborhoods and are sponsored by different
groups that cater to different special interest groups  kof C, The Rotary,
the Masons, Local  Churches and community groups. I remember When I was 17
and built my first harley. I had very little in common with the old timers
with their 55 chevys but the one thing I did have in common was the love of
horspower. Instead of worying about differences Ilook at it ass an
opportunity to share what we do have in common, and maybe getting some young
knucklehead to appreciate what a "Real car is all about" When I was young I
loved exotics and was fortunate to live long Island that had a fair share of
exotics. You have to remember that most ot theses young tuners don't have
the money to pursue the joys of owning one of the cars we love. But by
planting the seeds and showing that we are really just older versions of
them we can build the bonds that allow our hobby to continue from on
generatio to the next. And kids spending their paycheck on their tuner are
not spending their money on drugs.
Boyd

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Well said.
> Will
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> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> To: "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>; "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The End of the Affair...
>
>
> > Indeed a good read.
> >
> > I attend many car themed events, racing, concours, club shows, track
> days,
> > etc.
> >
> > The coolest cars seemed to always be owned by the guy who seems least
> > likely
> > to use them to their potential,
> > whether that's accumulated wisdom or cowardice I have no idea, having
> > realized that I'm becoming one of those guys day by day,
> > I shall defer to accumulated wisdom.
> >
> > The older guys have no respect ( in general ) for the younger guys
> because
> > the machines are so different, as if the clothes, language, earrings,
> > music
> > and
> > do dad add-ons weren't divisive enough.
> >
> > I bypassed a car show last Saturday for two reasons, it was close to my
> > house and I took an advance look in my Magnum at the crowd to see if it
> > was
> > worth getting the Pantera wet
> > ( and cleaning it up again ) as it was raining off and on and projected
> to
> > do the same all day long.  Seeing that it was a handful of "Tuner" cars
> > and
> > the tattooed, rap listening, earring wearing crowd, pants dragging, foul
> > mouthed crowd. I decided to go back home, Que up the Turkish Grand Prix
> > Qualifying that I had set to be recorded earlier and watch it instead.
> >
> > It rained as predicted and I felt OK about not taking the car out.
> >
> > OR did I?
> >
> > I am still thinking about it aren't I?
> >
> > Was it really cleaning the car up, was it hanging out for hours with kids
> > half my age, was it snobbery knowing that my Pantera was
> > faster, better, cooler, etc.
> >
> > or perhaps was it the company in general, what do I possibly have in
> > common
> > with those guys aside from my love of cars and driving them, isn't that
> > enough?
> >
> > The answer that I have reconciled myself with is NO, that is not enough
> > and
> > perhaps that's the same with many of you.
> > Why we have a Pantera forum and not a general Car guy forum, we all have
> > something in common the Pantera itself. I suggest that because of what we
> > absolutely
> > have in common, that by definition we have other things in common, the
> > average age here must be at least 50, the household income is probably
> > above
> > average,
> > chances are most of you have kids, and are married ( or have been ), your
> > careers have been decided or are at the tail end and winding down.
> >
> > I'd bet very few of us care about the stereo in the Pantera that much,
> > it's
> > there, it might be nice, it might have nicer speakers, but it sure as
> hell
> > isn't what made you buy the car.
> >
> > You don't have neon running lights, a DVD player in the dash or an
> > aquarium
> > in the headrest.
> >
> > I have become the old man to some degree, those kids just don't get
> > it,....same thing the old guys said about me 30 years ago.
> > I wanted to go fast and they wanted to polish chrome and brass, now I
> > still
> > want to go fast and the new kids want a Wii system and a DVD player
> > on wheels for a mobile entertainment center.
> >
> > I have an entertainment center, it's called a house......
> >
> > It will always be about common values and spending time with like minded
> > people, it all comes down to having those other things in common
> > that draw us together.
> >
> > We have the Pantera and all that
> > implies.........................................
> >
> > Michael in Savannah
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Garth Rodericks
> > <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I would concur with you Scott.  None the less, I thought it a good read.
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 6/9/09, scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: scott black <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] The End of the Affair...
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com, "Garth Rodericks" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 7:38 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> I did not agree with his assessment, though many of his points are
> valid.
> >> Just look at how kids love their cars.  It may not be the same cars that
> >> we
> >> love, but they eat up 4 wheel fun.
> >>
> >> Anyone else want to weigh in here?
> >>
> >> Scott Black
> >> TimePiece Public Relations
> >> Dallas - Houston - New York
> >> www.timepiecepr.com
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> >> > Subject: [DeTomaso] The End of the Affair...
> >> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:53 PM
> >> >
> >>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203771904574173401767415892.html
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