[DeTomaso] water injection

[boyd casey]

I did a serch yesterday when I was taking a crash course on  the subject.
There are quite a few and there is a preety wide band of price points. Most
of the setups for modern turbo or supercharged cars with efi are triggered
off either the boost or the map sensor the models for normally aspirated
engines seem to be set up to trigger from the vacumn reading. They have
quite small units some that are designed to use the original windsheild
washer resivoir as the tank for the water alcohol mixture. They also have
other tanks for custom applications. There are many that have quite small
digital control units that can be mounted right on the dash and then
accomodate the tank and pump in either the trunk or engine compartment. here
are three different companies that provide a variety of kits with different
features and price points. If you google "alcohol injection kits" you will
find a boat load of additional choices.
Please foregive the spelling errors I didn't have time to spell check and
proof.

Boyd

.http://www.snowperformance.net/

http://www.coolingmist.com/

*http://www.alcohol-injection.com/*







On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:16 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

>
> Dear Jack and Bill and Forum,
>
> This water injection topic is fascinating. I had no idea that such a
> "JCWhitney"-technology-gadget thing could actually work so well. Wow, clean
> pistons and combustion chambers appeals to us obsessive-compulsives! (plus
> the performance benefits)
>
> Is there a current reputable source for water injection using contemporary
> "completely reliable" computerized technology?
>
> Curious, Chuck Engles
>
>
> ---- bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >I put a 215 buick engine in an MGB years ago. I had a cracker box carb on
> it...AFB I had the hood off while it was having a naked lady air brushed on
> ot and it started raining. I just knew I was going to ruin the engine. To my
> suprise it started running cooler, stronger. I did a little reserch and
> found an injection unit from JC Whitney. It had a few interlocks to keep it
> from coming on when starting etc. It worked great too. Have you ever seen
> the top of a piston where the head gasket lets water to the cumbustion
> chamber..? Perfect clean. Mine had a nozzle like the frog eye of a
> windshield washer. I always had cooling problems with my setup until I used
> the water injection. It petered out and I gave up on the 215 because of oil
> pressuer problems. The car smelled like a sauna! Bill 1362
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>From: JDeRyke at aol.com
> >>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 11:06 PM
> >>To: Pantera007 at provamo.com
> >>Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> >>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] water injection
> >>
> >>I also lived with a Spearco 'computerized' water injection system for
> quite
> >>a few years. It had a small microprocessor to operate the built-in pump
> and
> >>was the best they offered at the time but it wasn't perfect. Several
> >>problems that Chuck didn't mention:
> >>* It came with a single aluminum jet which quickly corroded shut in both
> >>plain and distilled water. So I made a jet out of brass which fixed the
> >>corrosion. You also had to keep all added fluids very clean 'cause the
> jet opening
> >>is only 0.022". Tiny weed seeds or dust plugged the jet.
> >>* The microprocessor occasionaly quit- I went thru three before giving up
> >>on Spearco (about the time they discontinued mfgr). Once, the thing stuck
> >>OPEN, dumping the reservoir's full 2 qts of water into the engine in less
> than
> >>a minute. I didn't know what had happened other than power went away
> altho
> >>the engine kept running. Others on the car tour 100 miles from home told
> me
> >>my exhaust looked like a steam engine. I was lucky the engine didn't
> >>hydraulic!
> >>* After 5 yrs, the little DC pump & motor, built integral with the
> >>reservoir tank, simply fell apart. By that time, Spearco was out of
> business and no
> >>spare parts could be found (this was pre-E-Bay).
> >>
> >>Ak Miller the So-Cal turbo-guru sold Spearcos and dealt with their
> problems
> >>as best he could. Water injection was on everything 'performance' except
> >>drag racers- a Boss 429 Mustang with the NASCAR engine (so said the door
> tag)
> >>had a Spearco; the owner told us 'it didn't like running on only 98
> octane'
> >>and he couldn't afford to run Sunoco 102 at 8 mpg. My Weber-carbed
> Corvair
> >>had one and quite a few turbo engines had water injection, including the
> >>factory-turbo 215 Olds V-8 in '62- this needed water injection to deliver
> any
> >>boost. There was an interlock that opened the integral wastegate if the
> >>'turbo-fluid' bottle went dry. Cutting-edge technology at the time. FWIW-
> J
> >>Deryke
> >
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