[DeTomaso] twin turbo pantera on ebay

[Dick Koch]

That looks like an old  Lance Nist turbo installation.  Wilkinson had 
Lance do some of that work for him as I remember.  I know Lance did 
Wilkinson's  personal twin turbo Pantera setup in 1974 or 5.   What sold 
me on my original turbo setup that I had Lance do in 1976 was taking a 
ride in Wilkinson's Pantera late one night after I had met with Roy 
Butfoy to discuss fixing my ZF.  Many of Lance's original turbo setups 
did not have any form of intercooling. 

Myron, I've got to believe the comment you made in reference to the twin 
turbo car, you meant that without some "form of inercooling"  you 
couldn't have a well designed turbo setup.  Valid statement and to the 
point.  However, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

With the combined methanol injection and a mall shot of nitrous on the 
front side of my turbos acting as my "intercooler:" system, the engine 
runs just fine on pump gas at up to 16psi, with no knock and no 
overheating, putting out in the neighborhood of 800 hp. 
<http://www.panteraplace.com/Tech%20Info/KochWWA3.JPG>

Dick Koch - Atlanta
 
Myron Zadony wrote:
> ________________________________________
> From: Danylo Zadony
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:15 PM
> To: Myron Zadony
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] twin turbo pantera on ebay
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> Eeeekk
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> Instant concern would be the lack of cooling for the boosted air entering the engine.  No air to air or liquid to air nothing.  That engine design is not made to be driven at all...  Remember the other turbo setup I sent along with the large intercooler, that's correct.  Nothing like having air hot enough to make metal glow enter the engine before detonation in the cylinder, talk about needing awfully high 100+ octane all the time.
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> Car is gorgeous but sadly corners were cut on the engine.  You can see he has heat problems and had to add direct port injection for cooling either with co2 or n2o.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Myron Zadony
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:15 PM
> To: Danylo Zadony
> Subject: FW: [DeTomaso] twin turbo pantera on ebay
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> Check out :  Interior, Engine & the paint job.  Tato.
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> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of chris terp [thefuture98070 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:28 AM
> To: De Tomaso List; boyd casey
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] twin turbo pantera on ebay
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> Does anybody know who built the motor, and is it stable?  5000k miles?
>
> Chris Terp
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> --- On Sun, 7/12/09, boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] twin turbo pantera on ebay
> To: "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 4:32 PM
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Pantera-1972-DeTomaso-Pantera-Twin-Turbo-800-hp-VERY-FAST_W0QQitemZ200362113713QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item2ea6833ab1&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A317
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> Nice engine and suspension and paint, funky intierior
> $100k
> Boyd
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