[DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Panteras at BJ

Mon Jan 19 17:17:53 EST 2009

I got a decent US price but our Canadian dollar was almost at par, so I lost 
about $10k if I had sold a few months earlier or later
Will
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Anderson" <eanderson at geotracinternational.com>
To: "Will Demelo" <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Fw: Panteras at BJ

I would guess that you're pretty happy with the price you got for your black 
Cat, eh?  Man, I thought it was worth every penny.  I got mine appraised at 
$70,500 and then an Agreed Value insurance policy.  That's what I thought it 
was worth - too bad others don't ...

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On 
Behalf Of Will Demelo
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:08 AM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Panteras at BJ

These Cats have been around a long time and are only bringing in $32k for a
nice car? I don't think prices will ever be where they should if they
haven't gone there yet. Hell, it's been 37 yrs. Too bad for those that don't
see the beauty/value in them.
Will
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <shelbygt at cfu.net>
To: "Göran Malmberg" <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Panteras at BJ

> Agreed Goran, everyone has their own motivation.
>
> I feel fortunate to have found a nearly unmolested car.  Had original
> window
> sticker, sales invoice and warranty card.  It had cooling upgrades done,
> which are required, as I understand, if you want to drive them at all.
> Beyond that little was changed and most all was saved that was changed.
> That's why I bought it.  I stuffed some aftermarket campy clones and steam
> rollers on it as it looks so darned good with them.  I saved the original
> wheels and tires.
>
> I don't sell anything so resale is a moot point for me.  I buy something
> because I like it, not because I want to sell it.  On the other hand I
> could
> get mowed over tomorrow.  If I do I want what I have able to be brought
> back
> to original spec relatively easily in case my kids want to sell.  IMHO if
> there is any hope of big dollars down the road for these things it will
> come
> in their originality.  What little I don't have to bring it back that way
> I'm going to buy as I go.
>
> What a value these things are, though!  They look like $300k just sitting
> there.  The Pantera still gets my vote for one of the coolest things on
> four
> wheels.  It's even Ford powered, an absolute requirement for me.  Given
> the
> low production numbers, aesthetics, etc. I don't see why they aren't high
> dollar.  I'm just glad they weren't yet when I bought mine.  Perhaps in
> time
> they will be??  They should be???
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Göran Malmberg" <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>
> To: <P6746 at aol.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Panteras at BJ
>
>
>>I think this tells even a few more things. Like...
>>
>> We can do things for our own joy, OR, to create a public value or status.
>> (Or maybe a mix).
>> If we are having a clear picture of why we are doing what we do, a
>> selling
>> price after death is of no concern. It will be within our calculation.
>>
>> If we do things for our own joy, we are allways getting full value for
>> our
>> work and investment.
>>
>> If we do things to create public value, we will never know where we end
>> up, as our own satisfaction is dependent on the public mind at the time.
>>
>> A car like Pur Gold may have been build for the owner to just sit on a
>> chair
>> to look at, then it dosent matter if it brings him anywhere. It may have
>> been
>> built to show that such shiny car really is possible to drive aroud with.
>> The only one who knows, is THE BUILDER HIMSELF. And the important
>> thing is that he has been honest to himself as he decided what to do with
>> the
>> car.
>>
>> My own car has been rebuilt so many times that 90% of the work and money
>> put in to it is allready consumed, replaced or reworked. The car that is
>> now
>> standing in the garage is just  the remaning10% left of my Pantera
>> lifework.
>> Whatever the car will sell for, the other 90% will never get a market
>> value.
>>
>> Goran
>>
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