[DeTomaso] Fw: Panteras at BJ

[Göran Malmberg]

I dont know how it is in the USA, but in Sweden (and Europa)
we can not do what ever we like with a car, it has to pass the
yearly car inspection. we are allowed to an 15% increase in
engine Hp, and we can not change tire size to our free will, etc.
This means that part of the car value is in its paper.
I am a bit lucky here since my car is a "Group 5" car in the
papers, which not many Panteras are. Porsche 917 was a
Group 5 car for comparsion. Means that I had no problem
getting TB dimension tires rollbar and 500hp Hemi legally
in the papers! Not knowing about this things on an auktion will
probably make a difference to another car even if modified the
same way.
Goran


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Panteras at BJ


> Scott,
>
> Do you really think it matters to any buyer if 5000, 7000 or 9000 Panteras 
> were built? I don't think so. If it's 1 of 15 or 1 of 100, yes, but 1 of 
> 5000 not so much.
>
> Tomas
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Panteras at BJ
>
>
>> TimePiece PR represents Barrett-Jackson, so we hear a great deal about 
>> values constantly.  The team at BJA talk about documentation continually. 
>> How many times do you hear someone say that a car is "1 of XX"?
>>
>> Until the total number of Panteras built can be established and verified 
>> by a respected source, the cars will languish in value to collectors. 
>> But the good news for those of us that love to drive our cars is that 
>> they remain very, very affordable.  And I really, really love to drive my 
>> Pantera.
>>
>> Scott Black
>>
>> TimePiece Public Relations
>> Dallas - Houston - New York
>> www.timepiecepr.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "JJD1010 at aol.com" <JJD1010 at aol.com>
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:35:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw:  Panteras at BJ
>>
>>
>> These  Cats have been around a long time and are only bringing in $32k 
>> for a
>> nice  car?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>> We've been having this discussion since the mid 70s. In my opinion, 
>> there
>> are a lot public prejudices to overcome.
>>
>>        *    bad info  and press about the cars, especially in the early 
>> years
>>        *    inappropriate  modifications made to too many cars
>>        *    too  many lousy cars foisted off on unsuspecting (and
>> unknowledgeable) buyers
>>        *    and  there are a few things that aren't great about the cars
>>
>> And so, a vicious circle kept spiraling to undercut the  value of the 
>> cars.
>> Cars don't go up in value; owners do not  or can not justify spending the 
>> money
>> to properly maintain  them; a lot of cars really aren't very good; prices
>> stay low. So the  perception continues that they aren't very good cars 
>> and aren't
>> worth a lot  of money. Unfortunately, cars going to Barrett-Jackson 
>> reinforce
>> those  perceptions.
>>
>> The good news, however, is that we, as a group, are breaking  that cycle 
>> and
>> are spending the money to resto-mod the cars  appropriately, not 
>> necessarily
>> back to stock. A significant benefit to  Pantera ownership as far as I'm
>> concerned.
>>
>> The new POCA web site, although not fully implemented, is designed to
>> present a better face to the public. So maybe the fully functional POCA 
>> website and
>> Chuck Melton's registry will help. And maybe not.
>>
>> As for me, I'd rather drive a Pantera than the $50-100k muscle cars 
>> being
>> sold at the BJ auction.
>>
>> Jeff
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