[DeTomaso] Shock recomendations

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Would agree with Goran and Doc's comments. A new set of shocks and springs does wonders for the average old car or even old Pantera. 

As Mike Trusty says,
"I hate compromises and thats what you end up with in a street-performance Pantera that you also want to seriously track and open road race with. Even with a fully modified suspension with delrin bushings my Pantera is great for short or long road trips...the ride is not harsh at all. Even with his eyes closed my dog an attest to the smooth handling.

Besides the shocks and springs I took the shock development about 10 steps further on my Pantera changing out bushings, A-arm caster mods, sway bars, springs and shocks 2 or 3 times over the last 10 year before I got it the way I needed it. I got allot of List advise (always appreciated) but also got feedback from venders and shock mfg's.

Adding custom delrin bushings that Dick Drenske machined  and buying the double adjustable gas Aldan Shocks and springs intially from  Bobby Byers at Precision Proformance was a great experience.  Again no adverse ride changes.

Dick Drenske and Bobby Byers at Precision Pro-Formance both agreed two years ago that what they felt I also needed for the Silver State and other ORR roads was more compression on the rear shock and a little less spring....Bobby called ahead to Aldan for me to meet with the Aldan folks in Carson and they were great when we arrived and came to the same conclusions that  Dick and Bobby had discussed with me.  

Aldan also checked the spring rates for the spring sets  I brought by, rebuild the Aldan gas shocks added about 25% more compression to the rear shocks and suggested I go with a little less spring in front  all of which we did while I went back to pick up the rebuild shocks at Aldan....

When I went to pay the bill, they said, 

"Bobby said it was a 'no-charge' sale" .....that is a class act.

Mad Dawg Antenucci
Team Pantera Racing
"Go Fast or Go Home" 

Göran Malmberg <hemipanter at hemipanter.se> wrote: A few more pounds in spring rate is not disasterous to ride quality.
What influence ride the moost is shock settings. The type of racing
shock I talk about in my previous mail will without doubt be sort of
harsh.
Goran
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Engles" 
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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shock recomendations


>
> Dear Larry,
>
>
>                    I agree with you that higher spring rates are not
> detrimental to the ride.   I have changed both of my Panteras from the
> original stock suspensions to Quella suspensions.   The upgrade provides a
> major improvement in handling and no unpleasantness in ride quality 
> despite
> polyurethane bushings, higher spring rates, "stiffer shocks", larger sway
> bars and seventeen inch wheels and tires.
>
>
>                                      Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:47 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Shock recomendations
>
>
>> To get you in the ballpark on spring rates -
>>
>> Stock rates were -
>>
>>
>>
>> 200 front and 350 rear.
>>
>> Per a Quella ad circa 2005, his GT5 spring rates are -
>>
>> 450 front and 550 rear.
>>
>> I have these with his basic gas Konis, 1" solid bars F/R, his
>> graphite suspension bushings and A-arm sphere balls.
>>
>> 245/45x16" and 335/35x17"
>>
>> I personally, and past passengers, do not find this an
>> objectionable feel for street driving.
>>
>> Larry
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