[DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome

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     Unfortunately,  I did not have agreed value insurance.  I am still 
doing battle with my insurance company.  I'm just I got to stick around to 
learn that lesson!  :-))

Art



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
To: <artstephens at charter.net>; "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome



Thanks, Art.

Bummer about the crash though.  I hope you had Hagerty insurance!

Sincerely,

Chris



> From: artstephens at charter.net
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome
> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:00:29 -0800
>
> Christopher,
>      I had Steve Wilkinson build me a similar engine.  I previously had a
> 377 stroker with 4Vclosed chamber heads and the Comp Cams 32-541-8 
> hydraulic
> roller cam.  Steve built me a 408 stroker Cleveland with a Scat crank, 
> CHI
> 3V heads and a matching CHI dual plane manifold so I could run the 
> original
> engine screen.  I think the 377 made 385 HP to the rear wheels.  I crashed
> my car before I got the 408 to the dyno but it was faster!  I figured 
> going
> up in cubic inches would drop my HP and torque peak rpms by 3-400 to 
> around
> 5400-5500,  which was fine by me.  I didn't want to rev the engine to the
> moon anyway.  The car was fun to drive with that engine.  I used the same
> cam in both engines.
>
> Art
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Kimball" <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: "Pantera List Serve" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:31 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Comments about engine build welcome
>
>
> >
> >
> > Dear respective, respected forum members,
> >
> > I'm having a new
> > engine built or my 1972 Pre-L and would like the forum's comments before 
> > I
> > begin the process.  I'm looking for a strong performing and reliable
> > street
> > engine that will also be used 1 or 2 times a year at the
> > track (at most).  I'd love to have 450 horsepower, too!
> >
> > To come up with a plan, I've been working with a very good friend and
> > fellow Pantera owner, as well as the gentleman who will be building the
> > engine.  We've come up with what we think will work well, but would
> > appreciate your input, too.
> >
> >
> > My
> > main questions are:
> >
> > 1)  Should I stay with the Edelbrock 2665 intake or
> > would the 7564 RPM Air Gap be a better choice.  The builder thinks the 
> > Air
> > Gap may be too tall and might not fit under the engine cover (although I
> > have a cut-out already for a taller air cleaner) and that it may be more
> > appropriate for racing than street use.
> >
> >
> > 2)  The cam is meant for 351 cu-in.  How should the
> > cam specs be changed to better work with the 408 cu-in
> > displacement?
> >
> > Here's the proposal so far:
> >
> >
> > Block: Used 351C iron
> > block
> > Stroker Kit: Scat 9000 series 408 cu-in with cast crank,
> > forged I-beam rods
> > & forged dished
> > pistons.
> > Bore & Stroke: 4.030" x 4.00"
> > Suggested RPM
> > Limit: 6000
> > Harmonic Dampener: SFI
> > approved steel Pioneer
> > 872027
> > Timing Set:  Pro Gear true roller.
> > Rings: Moly.
> > Oil Pump:  Melling M-84A standard volume
> > Oil Pump Driveshaft:  Hardened aftermarket
> > version
> > Oil Pan:  Armodos' 8qt
> > with trap doors, crank scraper, windage baffle, clearance for 4"
> > stroke
> > Rockers: Comp Cam Pro Magnum Chrome
> > Moly 1.7
> > Heads:
> > Edelbrock aluminum.
> > Compression Ratio: 10:1
> > Intake manifold:
> > Edelbrock Performer 2665  Dual
> > Plane
> > Cam & Lifter
> > Kit: Comp Cams retro-fit
> > CL32-431-8 hydraulic roller
> >
> > Cam Specs: 224int,224exh at .050 | 110 LSA | .566" lift
> > at 1.7:1
> > Roller Lifter Link Kit: 31-1000 Spider and lifter wrench
> > set
> > Ignition: MSD Ready-to-Run.
> > Headers:  Mind Train
> > Exhaust: ? (I'd like to find a Mind Train exhaust system to match the
> > headers, but if that's not possible, what would be a good, alternate
> > choice?)
> >
> > Clutch: Centerforce.
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can offer!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris
> > #3846
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