[DeTomaso] Rotors........Again!

Thu Jan 8 20:37:03 EST 2009

Ian
The rotors I have used were Wagner 60208, or equivalent China-made that used that number as cross-ref.  They are 0.81 inches thick.  I still have a couple that are rather worn out.  They are very old and have the 060208 number in the casting.  
Ron

---- Ron Graves <rlg1973dt at charter.net> wrote: 
> I can re-check later today.  I think I still have a box with part number on it.
> ron
> 
> ---- Ian H <ihannington286720mi at comcast.net> wrote: 
> > Ok, I just got of the phone with tech services at Wagner.  They show the 
> > bd60209 as a two piece .94 thick rotor for a 68 Mustang and other fords.  I 
> > found a part# bd60208 for a 67 Mustang and he found that to be a two piece 
> > .81 thick rotor with all other dimensions checking out as well.
> > 
> > Can someone confirm that the part# you have is 60209?
> > 
> > I am going to call my parts guy and see if he is willing to order me a set 
> > of the 60208's...................Or maybe he just won't want to deal with me 
> > anymore ;-)
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John Taphorn" <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
> > To: "Ian H" <ihannington286720mi at comcast.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>; 
> > <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rotors........Again!
> > 
> > 
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > Mine were the correct thickness and are employed with stock front 
> > > calipers.
> > >
> > > I am beginning to believe that I better buy up the local supply of these 
> > > babies.  If you would like me to purchase a set locally and mail them to 
> > > you, I will based on the challenge you have faced. Although, I doubt 
> > > shipping from TX will be cheap
> > >
> > > JT
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Ian H" <ihannington286720mi at comcast.net>
> > > To: <detomaso at realbig.com>; <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:08 PM
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rotors........Again!
> > >
> > >
> > >> OK, so my wagner rotors finaly came in today and they are two
> > >> piece........Perfect!
> > >>
> > >> The backset is pefect
> > >> The rotor diameter is perfect
> > >> The center hole is perfect
> > >>
> > >> But the damned rotor is too thick.  WTF!  They are .940"  The EBC rotors 
> > >> I
> > >> bought are .820"  The Pantera rotors were probably about 21mm or appox.
> > >> .820" when new.
> > >>
> > >> John, is this the way yours were?  Did you have to have them turned or 
> > >> grind
> > >> the calipers?
> > >>
> > >> Ian
> > >> Who is getting ready to say  F*&% it and just use the EBC's
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> > >> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 4:20 PM
> > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] MUSTANG ROTORS - WAS: Which Loctite
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Ian,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> This is too late for your installation, but it bears repeating.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> John Taphorn has reported there IS a replacement 66 Mustang rotor that
> > >>>
> > >>> is still supplied as a two piece unit. Hub/hat unit and a separate 
> > >>> rotor,
> > >>> the
> > >>>
> > >>> two of them held together with the wheel studs.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> This is an important design detail. Read on.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> He further states that the shoulder size for the studs in this unit is 
> > >>> the
> > >>> same
> > >>>
> > >>> as the stock Pantera metric studs. Thus, you remove the metric studs 
> > >>> from
> > >>>
> > >>> your OEM rotor, remove the SAE studs from the new rotor,? and swap your
> > >>>
> > >>> stock studs to the new assembly.
> > >>>
> > >>> Your only mismatch will be the Pantera hub dust cover does not fit the
> > >>> Mustang hub.?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> This item is supplied/made by Wagner. They are an old time USA brake
> > >>> system
> > >>>
> > >>> parts manufacturer, and no doubt tooled up for these Mustang units 
> > >>> decades
> > >>>
> > >>> ago, unlike the new China manufacturers. To save costs, the China units
> > >>> are
> > >>>
> > >>> all one-piece hub/rotor pieces. Likewise, to save costs, Wagner 
> > >>> continues
> > >>> to
> > >>>
> > >>> make theirs as two piece units - as originally supplied by Ford on the
> > >>> Mustang.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Additionally, John says the separated rotors can, with perhaps some 
> > >>> minor
> > >>>
> > >>> caliper grinding, be a direct swap for the REAR rotors, too. John has 
> > >>> done
> > >>>
> > >>> this install personally.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I have four of these sitting on the shelf, and hope to do the install 
> > >>> this
> > >>> winter.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Wagner part # is 60209. Made in the USA!!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> RockAuto (located in Wisconsin) website shows they will sell, and ship,
> > >>>
> > >>> TWO of these to my CA address for $145.89 - not each,? but BOTH.
> > >>>
> > >>> Required dust covers are DORMAN # 13975:? $2.98 each.
> > >>>
> > >>> Go to their home page -
> > >>>
> > >>> http://tinyurl.com/8afqsp
> > >>>
> > >>> Click 'part number search', punch in 'BD60209' (leave the other 
> > >>> selection
> > >>> windows blank) and you're there.
> > >>>
> > >>> Larry
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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