[DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Gentlemen, Start Your Engines (NPC, sorry)

[R o s s H]

I guess the worship thing is your choice, sure. I'll reserve
my serious respect for the soldiers.

Oh, and then you went and referenced another police myth.

They do not "keep you safe" while you are "sitting
at home".  They occasionally can be bothered to track down
criminals after crimes have been committed, but rarely
are in a position to prevent a crime, especially any crime that
could possibly threaten you while you are "sitting at home".

What keeps us safe at home is (1) our generally decent
society, (2) living in safe places, (3) locking the door, but
mostly (4) the fact that at least one of us has a Remington 870.

The criminals don't know if the guy with (4) is me or you,
so both of us are generally safe at home.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynn Wall" <cars at wt-inc.com>
To: "'R o s s H'" <chaos at ross.aero>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Gentlemen, Start Your Engines


>I had a kid work for me whose total compensation was north of $110K.  He
> quit to go be a highway patrolman.  His dad was one, his uncle was one
> yadda, yadda, yadda.  So I looked up what they made in Utah.  $13.00 per
> hour to start and basically up to about $18.00 per hour max.  I suppose 
> they
> could make more if they became sergeants etc.  We keep in pretty good 
> touch
> and while I have never seen him happier I still cannot believe he made the
> choice.  BUT I am incredibly happy that there are those that do.
>
> My old scout master was a CHP and he retired with basically post traumatic
> stress syndrome.  They say that repeated adrenaline rushes can screw up
> people pretty bad.  He spun his cop car sideways in front of a big rig and
> pulled his gun on the driver until "help arrived".  He has no recollection
> of this and driver was promptly and politely sent on his way.  So while 
> they
> may not die as frequently as a garbage collector...., they probably don't
> make as much and are subject to more risk than most, mental and physical.
> Remember, these guys basically gave up the ability to own Pantera's and
> other "necessities" so they can get bitched about by guys like us when 
> they
> try to enforce the LAW.  Since researching my buddies pay I never miss an
> opportunity to discreetly by a meal for these guys when I'm in a 
> restaurant
> with them.
>
> This morning I barely missed hitting a patrol car when I hit a patch of
> black ice.  It was 22 BELOW zero and the officer was outside helping two
> other motorists that were in the ditch.
>
> Fireman, soldiers, teachers and law enforcement (and I'm sure most of 
> those
> on the list below) are studs and deserve "worship" anytime and anywhere.
> The only difference between law enforcement and the others is that the
> others didn't pull you over on that "really quite road, where you weren't
> bothering anybody" to enforce the law.
>
> I will never complain about the guys that "walk the wall" keeping us safe
> when we are sitting home where our biggest worry is "where can I find two
> piece rotors for my $50,000 car?".  I won't stand by silently while others
> do either.
>
> Sorry to all for the quick rant
>
> Lynn (....so many owe so few, so much)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of R o s s H
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:37 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Gentlemen, Start Your Engines
>
>
>
>> ...to put they're lives on the line to help me or anyone else.
>>
>>
>
> I'm always bothered by the "lives on the line" worship, because it just
> isn't the truth.  Actually, it  ("cop") is a relatively safe occupation. 
> It
> is
> more dangerous to be a garbage collector, recycler, farmer, rancher,
> pilot, logger, fisherman, roofer, linesman, driver, trucker, and others.
>
> There are 21 fatalities per 100,000 police and sheriff's patrol officers.
> For farmers and ranchers, that number is 38. The highest is 112. Note
> that "patrol" is just one assignment, presumably other LEA assignments
> worked during somone's taxpayer-supported high-pensioned career are
> about as safe as office work.
>
> http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf    (see page 4)
>
>
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