[DeTomaso] Carbon Fiber Brake discs!!!

[michael at michaelshortt.com]

Great write up which does a great job and covers the differences, these are
ceramic and carbon and were standard on the GT, I'll send you a pix that i
took when I drove one two years ago.  It states the biggest difference, that
being that it is not only a pad but as I stated the entire package, the
rotor being the really costly part. and these are as different from F1
brakes as regular brakes are different from these.
I'd want a set for sure.

Michael in Savannah


On 1/5/09, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   I guess there are F1 carbon fiber brakes, and the drastically cheaper
> (but still expensive) OEM carbon brakes described here:
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/techcenter/articles/130013/article.html
>
> an $8,000 option for Porsche, cuts rotor weight in half.  I didn't read it
> carefully, but they must have done something to make them work cold.
>
> Ken
>
> --- On *Mon, 1/5/09, michael at michaelshortt.com <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> * wrote:
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> From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Carbon Fiber Brake discs!!!
> To: JDeRyke at aol.com
> Cc: tborcich at msn.com, detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:15 AM
>
> Carbon Fiber brakes on the street would be about the dumbest thing that you
> could put on your car, both the rotor and the pads in F1 are CF, they cost
> about 50K per set and are used for one race.  They BEGIN working at 1,200
> degrees and are capable, and in fact, perform better as they get hotter up
> to 3,000 degrees.
> Regular High Performance pads start at 250 degrees and go up to 900 degrees
> ( beyond RED HOT ).
>
> Many manufacturers make silly ass claims and these are probably one of those
> with some carbon content in the pads composite mix.
>
> There ain't no such thing as cheap go fast tricks ( Rule #1 ) and Rule #2
> is
> even more true, there ain't no cheap tricks to slowly down fast either.  (
> Wall, Trees and other cars do not count, while cheap, the net result is
> really expensive.
>
> Michael in Savannah
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:21 AM, <JDeRyke at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 1/4/09 1:47:32 PM, tborcich at msn.com writes:
> >
> > > They mentioned that the rotors are about 4 pounds lighter. That would
> be
> > a
> > > nice option for those
> > > of us who now have swapped wheels to the heavier Campy Clone that add
> to
> > > unsprung weight.
> > > Plus they also have quite good breaking characteristics...but not
> sure if
> > > regular pads would work, nor
> > > if or how long before there is a version that will fit the Pantera.
> > >
> > Interesting. They typically do not work worth a d.... until really hot, so
> > unless they've done something special, this might not be the hot tip
> for
> > street
> > cars driven in traffic. I'd be interested in any lifespan data. In
> F-1,
> > pro-motorcycle and other racing, carbon brake discs wear out at the same
> > rate as the
> > pads and both are thrown away at the end of an event. So I'd imagine
> you'd
> > need proprietary pads for proper wear rate. Cheers- J DeRyke
> >
> >
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