[DeTomaso] Pantera sold on eBay

Wed Feb 18 12:19:17 EST 2009

I was at a live auction one time. I just so happened to be standing next to
a very attractive well dressed woman. She lost an item after a good battle
and told me, "I just love auctions. It is a combination of shopping and
gambling".

Larry (me too) - Cleveland

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of adin at frontier.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:54 AM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera sold on eBay

Auctions are like driving fast in that there is one important thing to  
remember.

In the case of driving: the throttle goes both ways.  Surprising how  
many folks have attachements so large they can't slow down.

In the case of auctions: don't pay more than you want to pay.  Seems  
simple, eh?

David, who owns a "mechanically sorted" project

Quoting "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>:

> So Gentlemen, what';s the lesson.
>
> 1) eBay is a fine instrument for being taken if you don't follow the
rules.
>
> 2) Have somebody go inspect the car if you can't.
>
> 3) an airline ticket is way cheaper insurance before you turn over cash
and
> gives you the ability walk away before it's yours
>
> 4) Crap is worth what somebody will pay for it, no more, no less
>
> 5) 99% of the time on cars, you only make money when you buy them right,
not
> when you sell them.
>
> 6) This hobby is like Vegas, you don't play with money that you can't
afford
> to lose.
>
> 7) You meet the nicest people on a Honda, you meet the world's biggest
> scumbags when you sell exotic cars.
> because in order to play in that field you generally started with smaller
> and cheaper cars and screwed people over
> on your way to the top of the food chain.  Buy from people you know or
from
> people who know people you know.
>
> 8) a reserve is what it says and any seller with a brain knows that the
car
> might not sell, but eBay eggs you on in the last 3 days with
> Hey, asshole, lower your reserve ( because what that really means is that
> unless you sell the car, we only get the listing fee and no commission % )
> You can't bid on your own stuff, you can have a friend do it for you, but
> then you still have to pay the sales commission.
> So if you don't want to follow through, the best thing is to just let it
die
> below the reserve, it's a cheaper way out.
>
> 9) get Mike Drew to go look at the car, test drive it, work on it for free
> and then deliver it, that my friends is Freaking priceless.
>
>
>
> BONUS LIFE LESSON.
>
> 10) all self made gagillionaires who are "incredibily nice guys" ( sick of
> hearing that one ) were at some point in their lives
> real SOB's, that's how they got there, they only get to be nice now
because
> they already have theirs.
>
>
> Michael "Cynical in Savannah"
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Larry - Ohio Time Corp <
> larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>
>> When I bought my GT5 shell I put my eBay bid in at the last second and
was
>> high bidder with 2K still to go on my max bid. I was out bid on the last
>> 1/2
>> second. Within 1 minute of the sale end I get a second chance offer at my
>> max bid. I knew what happened. I knew they did it to find and get my max
>> bid. I should have walked away. It was the max I was willing to pay so I
>> took it.
>>
>> When the trucking company delivered it, I knew I should have walked away
>> even more.
>>
>> Larry (felt used) - Cleveland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of chris terp
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:28 PM
>> To: kmaguire at landrovermiramar.com; detomaso at realbig.com;
MikeLDrew at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]   Pantera sold on eBay
>>
>> Actually, I've been a victim of sellers outbidding their own product so
>> they
>> don't lose.  For instance, this person might have wanted $40k for the
car,
>> advertised it as 'no reserve', and then bid $35k for their own car so
they
>> would not lose.
>>
>> Or they could have had a friend bid up the price well knowing they would
>> not
>> be held accountable for the purchase.
>>
>> It's hard for EBay to keep track of these types of sellers.  Seller
history
>> is a good way to check.  Also, you can ask EBay if there was potentially
>> fraudulant activity there and they will check it out.
>>
>> Chris Terp
>> #6571
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]   Pantera sold on eBay
>> To: kmaguire at landrovermiramar.com, detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 12:04 PM
>>
>> In a message dated 2/17/09 11 50 22, kmaguire at landrovermiramar.com
writes:
>>
>>
>> > I don't have any experience with eBay, but the bidding pattern is
>> > certainly suspect. The winning bidder bid against himself from $30K to
>> > the "winning" bid of $35K in the space of 50 minutes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Maybe we will see this car come up for auction again...
>> >
>> You gotta read the fine print.   The bidding history does not show
>> automatic
>>
>> bids.   So, somebody put in a bid with a 'max bid' of 30K, let's
>> say.   Then
>> somebody else manually bids $20K.   E-bay accepts his bid and raises it
to
>> $21K.   E-bay accepts that and raises it again, and so on until the
manual
>> bidder
>> either quits, or he makes a bid higher than the automatic bidder's max
bid.
>>
>> The manual bidder is then in the lead, and E-bay sends an e-mail to the
>> automatic bidder, telling him that he's been outbid, and offering him the
>> chance
>> raise his stated max bid.
>>
>> And so on...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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