[DeTomaso] Not Pantera related but interesting to persons with an opinion on Gun control

Sun Feb 1 15:13:54 EST 2009

I have to agree with Bob on all counts.  I don't think Boyd411 had any 
intention of offending anyone.  Our Right to Keep and Bear Arms has been 
hard earned, many lives lost here and abroad to protect that Right.  We also 
have some real problems with controlling illegal immigration here in the 
United States.  There are some strong emotions these days in the US and some 
of us have a need or desire to voice those opinions.  I don't have a problem 
with it personally.  I've been communicating with folks electronically since 
well before the internet.  I've watched rational men nearly come to blows 
over something innocent and unintentional.

We get off topic OFTEN on the forum.  No need to become offended.  Take it 
for what it is.  We have Freedom of Speech in the United States.  We're a 
diverse group here on the forum, all entitled to our own opinions. 
Fortunately, we do have a common interest in Panteras.  Honestly, I can't 
speak to the cultures of other countries as I don't have familiarity.  I do 
respect your opinions though, whether I agree or disagree.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <juergen.wilms at cox.net>
To: "boyd411" <boyd411 at gmail.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Not Pantera related but interesting to persons with 
an opinion on Gun control

> Dear "Boyd411",
>
> I too have an opinion on gun control and I am deeply offended in more than 
> one way by your post on this bulletin board. I sincerely hope that in the 
> future you (or others) refrain from posting similarly inappropriate 
> material in this particular place. You are entitled to your opinion, but I 
> (and I assume the vast majority of list members) do not participate in 
> this group to discuss anything other than our love for deTomaso cars.
>
> Other list members: am I in the wrong group?
>
> Jürgen M. Wilms (Germany)
>
>
> ---- boyd411 <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: KeithCasey <KeithCasey at cox.net>
>> Date: Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:28 AM
>> Subject: Shooting in Butte, Montana Real Gun Controll ...... DON PALLETT
>> To: KeithCasey <KeithCasey at cox.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> > >> *Shooting in Butte , Montana*
>> > >> Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders :
>> > >>
>> > >> Butte, Montana November 5, 2007
>> > >>
>> > >> Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico
>> > >> Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower
>> > >> home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her
>> > >> father had left their two-story home.
>> > >>
>> > >> It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they
>> > >> were in Montana , and Patricia had been a clay shooting
>> > >> champion since she was nine.
>> > >>
>> > >> Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke
>> > >> through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to
>> > >> her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500
>> > >> shotgun.
>> > >>
>> > >> Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor
>> > >> only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast
>> > >> of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He
>> > >> suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.
>> > >>
>> > >> When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a
>> > >> blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the
>> > >> street where he bled to death before medical help could
>> > >> arrive.
>> > >>
>> > >> It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a
>> > >> stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another hom e
>> > >> invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien,
>> > >> was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.
>> > >>
>> > >> Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS,
>> > >> MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news........an 11 year old girl,
>> > >> properly trained, defended her home and herself against
>> > >> two a**-hole, illegal immigrants......and she wins, she
>> > >> is still alive.
>> > >>
>> > >> *Now** **/_that_/**/_ _/**is Gun Control !*
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Thought for the day: *
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> *Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is
>> > >> like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"*
>> > >>
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