[DeTomaso] Fw: [SPAM]Re: Not Pantera related but interesting to persons with an opinion on Gun control

Sun Feb 1 14:32:16 EST 2009

Bob, well put.
Will
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Simpson" <R.Simpson35 at Verizon.net>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [SPAM]Re: Not Pantera related but interesting to 
persons with an opinion on Gun control


>I honestly don't care if someone voices their personal opinion on topics
> that are non Pantera related.  When I read "Not Pantera Related" in his
> subject line, I assumed it would be a non Pantera related post.  Over the
> years I have found that discussing religion or politics is quite possibly
> the fastest way to turn a friend into a casual acquaintance, so I try not 
> to
> discuss either, I have chosen to break my own personal rule.
>
> I think that many people here may have a stance on gun control that is 
> quite
> possibly, vastly different from most of the citizenry of Germany and of 
> the
> EU. Gun ownership is a right in this nation, just as free speech (Pre-free
> speech zones)and due process, (pre 9-11) were a right.  Our founding 
> fathers
> left a land of tyranny and understood that firearms were the great 
> equalizer
> against a tyrannical government.  When exercised individually, the Right
> provides for the security of one’s person, family and property.  When
> exercised collectively, the Right insures that the People always possess 
> the
> means to free themselves from a despotic or tyrannical government. Our
> second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, it has nothing to do with
> sports, it has everything to do with the people's ability to defend
> themselves from tyranny.  The first step of any tyrannical government is 
> to
> disarm the citizenry, pick a name, any name.  Pol-Pot, Mao, Stalin and of
> course Adolph Hitler, the common denominator was the disarming of the
> citizenry to ensure power over the people by using the false claim of 
> safety
> and protection.
>
> How many millions of people would be alive today if they would have NEVER
> surrendered their liberty, for a false sense of security.
>
>  "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> — Benjamin Franklin
>
> Bob
> #3468
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <juergen.wilms at cox.net>
> To: "boyd411" <boyd411 at gmail.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:00 AM
> Subject: [SPAM]Re: [DeTomaso] Not Pantera related but interesting to 
> persons
> with an opinion on Gun control
>
>
>> Dear "Boyd411",
>>
>> I too have an opinion on gun control and I am deeply offended in more 
>> than
>> one way by your post on this bulletin board. I sincerely hope that in the
>> future you (or others) refrain from posting similarly inappropriate
>> material in this particular place. You are entitled to your opinion, but 
>> I
>> (and I assume the vast majority of list members) do not participate in
>> this group to discuss anything other than our love for deTomaso cars.
>>
>> Other list members: am I in the wrong group?
>>
>> Jürgen M. Wilms (Germany)
>>
>>
>> ---- boyd411 <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: KeithCasey <KeithCasey at cox.net>
>>> Date: Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:28 AM
>>> Subject: Shooting in Butte, Montana Real Gun Controll ...... DON PALLETT
>>> To: KeithCasey <KeithCasey at cox.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > >> *Shooting in Butte , Montana*
>>> > >> Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders :
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Butte, Montana November 5, 2007
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico
>>> > >> Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower
>>> > >> home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her
>>> > >> father had left their two-story home.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they
>>> > >> were in Montana , and Patricia had been a clay shooting
>>> > >> champion since she was nine.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke
>>> > >> through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to
>>> > >> her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500
>>> > >> shotgun.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor
>>> > >> only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast
>>> > >> of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He
>>> > >> suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a
>>> > >> blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the
>>> > >> street where he bled to death before medical help could
>>> > >> arrive.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a
>>> > >> stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another hom e
>>> > >> invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien,
>>> > >> was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS,
>>> > >> MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news........an 11 year old girl,
>>> > >> properly trained, defended her home and herself against
>>> > >> two a**-hole, illegal immigrants......and she wins, she
>>> > >> is still alive.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *Now** **/_that_/**/_ _/**is Gun Control !*
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *Thought for the day: *
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is
>>> > >> like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"*
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
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