[DeTomaso] Another Grenade Job - (sorry long)

Sun Dec 27 10:21:16 EST 2009

Will,

80% of the work is pulling the motor. You had a plan to do it anyway!  You are way ahead of the game. Just 
put a bit more love into the motor and the Webers will be screaming again.

Larry (never joke on bad luck) - Cleveland

On Sun Dec 27 10:09 , "Will Kooiman"  sent:

>Actually, it isn't that big of a deal.  It's embarrassing, yes.  It's
>frustrating, but not too bad.
>
>I want my 351C, and I want it to stay together.  I just got off the 351C vs.
>4.6 DOHC fence.  Don't make me get back on.
>
>Remember, this is a hobby.  You fly R/C planes until they crash.  You drive
>R/C cars until the wheels fall off.  And THEN you stop.  At least that's how
>I play.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [detomaso-bounces at realbig.com','','','')">detomaso-
bounces at realbig.com] On
>Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
>Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 2:03 AM
>To: Will Kooiman; detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Another Grenade Job - (sorry long)
>
>I don't need to tell a fellow former survivor of working on a chicken farm
>that this hurt in your heart  that you feel is only temporary....as someone
>said a while back if you run hard enough and long enough eventually sooner
>or later you are gonna break something. 
>
>You have so gawd damn much passion Will I know you will be back....don't
>make me tell the story again about the 2 teenage girls who fell into the
>chicken shit pond on the chicken farm and no one would jump in to save
>them.....okay finally someone threw them some lumber.....you know the rest
>of the story....
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>Mad Dawg Antenucci - Former chicken farm alumni bro' of Will Kooiman 
>Team Pantera Racing 
>The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
>www.teampanteraracing.com
>
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>
>
>________________________________
>From: Will Kooiman wkooiman at earthlink.net>
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Sent: Sat, December 26, 2009 9:07:59 PM
>Subject: [DeTomaso] Another Grenade Job - (sorry long)
>
>FYI - I grenaded my engine - again.  I'm going to write a book.  50 ways to
>blow your 351C.  (I started to say Cleveland - don't you bet Larry would
>love that one?)
>
>
>
>How many times is this for me?  3?  4?  I've lost count.  I had a Thai
>friend in high school that used to say, "Run good boy, but don't last long."
>Whatever.
>
>
>
>Here's what happened...
>
>
>
>I was taking it for a drive this morning.  Oh wait.  Before the drive, I had
>a conversation with a guy whose dad used to race T-bolts.  We went at it for
>an hour trying to top each other's story.  He was shocked when I told him
>you can still buy Panteras in the $35-40K range.  I still think they're a
>fantastic deal on exotic cars - even though mine is garage art now (fire
>away Nolan).
>
>
>
>At any rate, here's what happened...  I took it for a drive.  It was running
>great.  I checked the timing yesterday and discovered it was on 12deg
>initial.  I upped it to 15deg initial, 21 adv, for 36 total.  I heard a
>slight knocking.  The same noise I've been hearing.  It wasn't pinging.  It
>was hitting on all 8.  Oil pressure was on 50psi at 2000rpm.  Nothing was
>popping out the Webers.  Nothing was popping out the exhaust.  I checked the
>valve lash yesterday.  Everything was exactly where I left it.  I have a
>high volume (Rob McQ. sp?) fuel pump.  I figured the high volume pump was
>knocking behind the timing cover.  It has a heavier spring, so maybe that
>was the source of the knocking.  That's what it sounded like anyway.
>
>
>
>I decided to turn around and head back home.  I couldn't resist, though.  I
>pushed it about 1/2 way down.  The tires immediately lit up.  And then, it
>happened.  It sounded like I knocked a 2" hole in one of the header pipes.
>Very loud - like BRAAAP BRAAAP BRAAAP.  Sorry - it's hard to describe.  I
>coasted for a while, found a good place to pull off, and called AAA.
>
>
>
>By the way, I'm still amazed at the difference with the Webers.  It ran
>great with the Holley, but the Webers feel like it adds another 75hp to the
>midrange.  When I push it 1/2 way down, without popping the clutch, in 1st,
>it hits the rev-limiter almost immediately.  I can't tell you what it does
>in 2nd or higher.  All I can say is I'm hooked.  I can only imagine what
>it's like in one of the EFI cars (Kirby's GT40, Mad Dawg's, etc.).  Oh yeah,
>it's also smoother, and quieter - more exotic - less muscle car (rumpity
>rump).
>
>
>
>My guess is it dropped another valve.  That's the only thing I can come up
>with without opening it up.  I feel like Dr. House.  "It's
>circumflatulosis."  "Start it on a 50cc of corkulene."
>
>
>
>I should mention that I have the 7500 pill in the MSD.  With everything I
>have in the bottom end, I figured I could pull more than 6000rpm.  Maybe
>not.  If it's another valve issue, though, the bottom end has nothing to do
>with it.
>
>
>
>I should also mention that I'm running the springs recommended by CompCams.
>It has 7000 series stainless one-piece Ferrea valves.  The heads were set
>up, CC'ed, etc. by a local shop that does work for NASCAR teams.  If it
>really did drop another valve, I'm going to drop kick the whole mess to a
>real engine builder - i.e. not me.
>
>
>
>I should also also mention that I was going to pull the engine anyway.
>Really.  I want to get it painted in January.  The paint job will include
>fixing rust issues behind the fuel tank, which as everyone knows includes
>pulling the gas tank and the engine.  So, yes, I really was going to pull
>the engine.
>
>
>
>No promises on when I'll pull the engine.  I've used up my share of kitchen
>passes.  It may be a couple of weeks.  I promise I'll take pics this time,
>though.  Actually I took pics the last time, but the memory card in the
>camera is corrupt. I can see the pics in the camera, but I can't upload them
>to the computer.  The memory card was probably made by Lucas.
>
>
>
>Will (bummed in Texas)
>
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