[DeTomaso] Engine Bay Brace question

Chuck Adkinson chuck at pantera.ws
Tue Dec 22 15:42:37 EST 2009


Dog,

He's done great work with his Pantera. What I like about it is he's fearless
when it comes to improvements/mods. The work on the hood and spoiler is
jaw-dropping.

Peace brother.

Chuck Adkinson
www.pantera.ws




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: <gow2 at rc-tech.net>; <arkoch at earthlink.net>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Bay Brace question


> Well said Gary.....don't let the Debbie Downers on the List beat you 
> down.Life is a compromise.
>
> The Pantera is like a beautiful imperfect bad-girl....full of 
> compromises.....try to tame her or re-design her and you end up taking the 
> soul and spirit out  of her. Cars are like women.....they like being 
> spanked and pushed to the edge. They want to be kissed afterwards but 
> don't try and tame the kitty or the people who think outside the box.
>
> Most of the old guys on this List have forgot that.......... or never knew 
> it in the first place.
>
>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "gow2 at rc-tech.net" <gow2 at rc-tech.net>
> To: arkoch at earthlink.net
> Cc: "detomaso at realbig.com" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 8:37:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Engine Bay Brace question
>
> In an internet forum theory, planets aligned, perfect example I would
> agree. As I need it a few inches over for cluch slave (Ford 400) clearance
> and being so overkill for the application building a bridge is a litte
> much especially with other factors involve.
>
> Gary
>
>> I may be repeating what I believe Goran said but the "truss" that GW
>> shows in his pictures is unstable.
>>
>> While there are some benefits in adding the two "45" degree members to
>> the top and bottom braces to stabilizing the two horizontal braces, the
>> effects are minimal as compared to employing the triangulation rules of
>> truss design.
>>
>> As everyone knows on this forum from what they learned in grade school
>> geometry, the only stable two dimensional shape is a triangle.
>>
>> Basic force vector analysis of truss design requires that all load
>> points be triangulated.
>>
>> Leaving out that there are more than 2 dimensional forces involved in
>> stabilizing the rear suspension mounts and if one where to design the
>> "optimum" rear suspension truss (which I think is a waste of time and
>> overkill), a designer would  build a three dimensional truss.
>>
>> Some basic reference material can be found on many online sites that can
>> provide some "put you to sleep" material over the Christmas and New Year
>> holidays, such as:
>>
>> Building Strong Shapes with Triangles -
>> http://www.rogersconnection.com/triangles/index.html
>> Vector Statics - Intro to Truss Design -
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjdLSXMMp18
>> Vector Statics - Truss Examples 1-
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T211O2lQEQo&feature=related
>> Vector Statics - Truss Examples 2 -
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-wT1x5ge0&feature=related
>>
>> To all, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and most important for the
>> older folks on this forum a Healthy New Year.
>>
>> Dick Koch - Atlanta
>>
>>
>> GW wrote:
>>> Those were actually moved in because I needed room to work a slave cyl
>>> on the 400 bell housing. I am not sure which bell housing I will be
>>> using. The consequence of doing so is immeasurable. It's kind of like
>>> saying you used a 9lb hammer to squash a roach when a 10lb hammer would
>>> have been ideal.
>>>
>>> hemipanter at hemipanter.se wrote:
>>>
>>>> The 45 dgr tubes should also join the outer corner of the rectangle.
>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/ladder/lad10.jpg
>>>> Goran
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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