[DeTomaso] Supporting the Pantera legacy
Christopher Kimball
chrisvkimball at msn.com
Thu Dec 3 00:40:25 EST 2009
Very good thoughts; I concur completely.
Thanks,
Chris
#3846 (with a whole lot of vendor-supplied parts!)
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:15:16 -0800
> From: asajay at asajay.com
> To:
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Supporting the Pantera legacy
>
> I'll try to keep this short... but y'all know me better. ;)
>
> The Pantera is nearing 40 years old. Think back to when you were a kid,
> a teenager; think back to what cars were 40 years old at that time. For
> me, it would have been anything from the 1930's. How many of those cars
> are still on the road today, nearly 70 years later? Not many to my
> recollection unless they've been restomod'd into Hot Wheels.
>
> Now think of the cars that were the most popular and sought after. For
> me, Mustangs, Camaros and Mopars from the late 60's come to mind. How
> many of -those- do you still see out there? Quite a few even if it -is-
> mostly at shows.
>
> Now it could be said there were more of those produced than those from
> the 1930's or the 1940's or even the 50's. But what helps those classic
> cars survive today? It's not the collector machining new parts in his
> garage for his favorite classic toy. It's the vendor.
>
> It's the vendor who has gone through the trouble of finding compatible
> parts. It's the vendor who has spent their own money to have parts
> retooled. It's the vendor who has gained experience and collected items
> together that are useful and will keep your classic on the road. Pick
> up any magazine copy featuring classic Fords, Mustangs or Chevy's and
> you'll find a plethora of vendors who can supply nearly every component
> you'll ever need. But how about the Pantera?
>
> Gary Hall once opined to me he probably had all the parts necessary to
> build a Pantera from scratch. Kirk Evans has called -me- to help
> explain technical issues. Bobby Byers has "scrounged" looking for parts
> for me. Steve Wilkinson has credited me for parts I ended up not using
> (and sent back), and taken the time to talk with me about "things"
> Pantera. I've talked with and purchased items from Marino Perna and
> Dennis Quella. Larry Stock worked with me on radiator exchanges one
> year, twice in one week during a Fun Rally. Pantera International has
> provided part here and there for me as well. There are more. Many of
> these guys will stay with you on the phone for hours just to talk you
> through problems..... at no charge. And there are more who aren't
> specifically Pantera vendors, but who do support us.
>
> Pat Mical has created some wonderful parts that many on this list are
> thrilled with. Many of you have purchased parts from Ipsco. Ted
> Mitchell has a few Pantera specialty items. Who can forget Lloyd Butfoy
> at RBT, building and rebuilding ZF transaxles for Panteras, GT40
> replicas and others. And then, where do you get your engine done if you
> don't do it yourself? Some of the vendors have a shop and do engines
> themselves, others outsource, and then there is Russ Fulp who built the
> last killer engine Mad Dog uses. Those are the guys that keep the
> Pantera alive. Through good times, ... and bad.
>
> The last year has hit many of us hard economically. There are folks on
> this forum who have lost their jobs but kept up appearances. There are
> folks who are struggling to keep their head above water and are still
> here. There are those who are doing "okay" but not necessarily
> "great." I think -all- of us are feeling the pinch, our vendors
> included. Now it's Christmas 2009 and none of know exactly what 2010
> has in store.
>
> Without our patronage, we may lose vendors in the future. Am I saying I
> know of vendors who are struggling? No, I'm saying we -all- are cutting
> back, including them; they being in business have to make decisions just
> like we do. I personally don't want to see any of these guys go out of
> business; they -all- seem to have something I want but can't buy just
> yet. Am I trying to get you to go out and spend more money? Well duh.
> Sorry, lost my head for a moment. No, I'm not trying to push you into a
> Christmas buying binge at your favorite Pantera vendor. But wouldn't it
> be nice if they knew you still cared about them offering parts and services?
>
> Maybe it's time to start a new tradition. If we can't dial a vendor up
> and buy a part, even if it's a small one, to say Merry Christmas, then
> maybe we should send them a card and tell them we appreciate the help
> they've given us; to tell them we understand it's hard on them as it is
> on us and we hope to continue using their parts and services in the future.
>
> The Pantera doesn't have the production numbers of a Mustang or a
> Camaro. It's doesn't have a vendor network like they do either. What
> we have is precious, and as the car ages so do our vendors (the
> businesses that is... the guys running them -never- age). Hopefully the
> more we use them, the greater chance they'll be around for years to come.
>
> Another 10 years and the Pantera will be approaching 50 years old; how
> many Panteras will be around then? How many will be driven? How many
> will need parts? How many vendors will there be?
>
> You might want to say Thank You now. Support your Pantera Vendor and
> other vendors who support our hobby.
>
> You might start here:
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/store/vendlst
>
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
>
> 1971 Mach I Mustang [ASA JAY]
> 1973 Pantera L 5533 [ASASCAT]
>
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