[DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?

[larry at ohiotimecorp.com]

Hay, who left the gate open and let you back on the forum?


Larry (2 cars and 3 motor, nutin runs) - Cleveland



On Fri Aug 28 11:49 , Mad Dog Antenucci  sent:

>That 485 engine dyno HP would be good for you Larry.......... because like Chuck you don't get the 
Pantera out of the garage! ;-]>
>Â Mad Dawg Antenucci 
>Team Pantera Racing   The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
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>From:
> Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:41:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?
>
>
>485HP Chuck!
>
>Dam to bad you fall into the "out of state" class, as you would be the go to
>man on my motor!
>
>Larry - Cleveland
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>Behalf Of Charles Engles
>Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:40 PM
>To: Tim Morgan
>Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?
>
>Dear Tim,
>
>Â  Â  Â  Â  Â   In my opinion.........
>
>            I am not that impressed.   I am making 485 hp and 436 ft-lbs 
>with *iron* heads, pump gas and a regular hydraulic lifter
> cam.
>
>            You live in Seattle.   There must be some reputable engine 
>builders with Ford Cleveland experience in a metroplex like Seattle.   Check
>
>with the POCA Chapter members.   Check with the local Shelby club.   Check 
>with the local circle track or dirt track racers for their recommended 
>engine builder.   I think that you would be better off to have your engine 
>built locally by a real engine builder that you can talk to and return to if
>
>there are any problems.  Also you should get it dynoed and broken-in on the 
>engine builder's dyno----then drop it in your Pantera.   I think you'll be 
>far better off with the local approach than with an out-of-state engine 
>builder.    Don't ask me how I know about using out-of-state engine 
>builders.
>
>
>Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Warmest
> regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Tim Morgan" <morganuci at gmail.com>
>To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:00 PM
>Subject: [DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?
>
>
>> My 73's existing engine is somewhere in the neighborhood of 350 HP.
>> Recently, it was making a strange noise, and the oil smells of gasoline 
>> and
>> there are a lot of metal filings on the oil drain plug.  Assuming it's
>> toast, that leaves me with a few choices:
>>
>>Â   1. Rebuild my existing engine
>>Â   2. Buy a new block, transfer everything else (heads etc.) from my old
>>Â   engine
>>Â   3. Buy a crate motor
>>
>> I'm leaning towards #3 because it seems
> like the fastest and easiest
>> choice.  I also want to end up with a better, more powerful motor than I
>> had, as long as I'm doing this, and buying a crate motor gets me a bunch 
>> of
>> new, hi performance parts all in one package.  Then the question is,
>> Windsor, Cleveland, or something else?  I'd like to stick with Cleveland 
>> for
>> a number of reasons, including being able to reuse a lot of what I already
>> have, such as my fuel injection system.  But of course, Clevelands are 
>> much
>> less plentiful than Windsors.
>>
>> So, I was looking at this particular engine:
>> http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/ford_351C_445hp.htm.  It goes for $5195 as
>> described.  He will install my intake manifold (sorry, I don't know what
>> model it is, but it has
> the fuel injectors installed in it) in place of 
>> his
>> normal manifold.  His price includes testing, balancing, shipping, etc., 
>> as
>> in the description, but not breaking it in or dyno testing it.
>>
>> Is there an alternative that I should look at?  He has 100% positive
>> feedback on eBay (on 19 transactions in the last 12 months), but does 
>> anyone
>> have experience with Tuff Dawg engines, good or bad (you can write to me
>> individually rather than post if you prefer)?  I'm in the greater Seattle
>> (Issaquah) area.
>>
>> Also, what cam or cam specs would be good for a fuel injected Cleveland 
>> for
>> street use?  He thought that the optimum would be different than with a
>> carb.
>>
>> Tim
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