[DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?
Larry - Ohio Time Corp
larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Fri Aug 28 07:41:45 EDT 2009
485HP Chuck!
Dam to bad you fall into the "out of state" class, as you would be the go to
man on my motor!
Larry - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Engles
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:40 PM
To: Tim Morgan
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?
Dear Tim,
In my opinion.........
I am not that impressed. I am making 485 hp and 436 ft-lbs
with *iron* heads, pump gas and a regular hydraulic lifter cam.
You live in Seattle. There must be some reputable engine
builders with Ford Cleveland experience in a metroplex like Seattle. Check
with the POCA Chapter members. Check with the local Shelby club. Check
with the local circle track or dirt track racers for their recommended
engine builder. I think that you would be better off to have your engine
built locally by a real engine builder that you can talk to and return to if
there are any problems. Also you should get it dynoed and broken-in on the
engine builder's dyno----then drop it in your Pantera. I think you'll be
far better off with the local approach than with an out-of-state engine
builder. Don't ask me how I know about using out-of-state engine
builders.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Morgan" <morganuci at gmail.com>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] A new engine in my future?
> My 73's existing engine is somewhere in the neighborhood of 350 HP.
> Recently, it was making a strange noise, and the oil smells of gasoline
> and
> there are a lot of metal filings on the oil drain plug. Assuming it's
> toast, that leaves me with a few choices:
>
> 1. Rebuild my existing engine
> 2. Buy a new block, transfer everything else (heads etc.) from my old
> engine
> 3. Buy a crate motor
>
> I'm leaning towards #3 because it seems like the fastest and easiest
> choice. I also want to end up with a better, more powerful motor than I
> had, as long as I'm doing this, and buying a crate motor gets me a bunch
> of
> new, hi performance parts all in one package. Then the question is,
> Windsor, Cleveland, or something else? I'd like to stick with Cleveland
> for
> a number of reasons, including being able to reuse a lot of what I already
> have, such as my fuel injection system. But of course, Clevelands are
> much
> less plentiful than Windsors.
>
> So, I was looking at this particular engine:
> http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/ford_351C_445hp.htm. It goes for $5195 as
> described. He will install my intake manifold (sorry, I don't know what
> model it is, but it has the fuel injectors installed in it) in place of
> his
> normal manifold. His price includes testing, balancing, shipping, etc.,
> as
> in the description, but not breaking it in or dyno testing it.
>
> Is there an alternative that I should look at? He has 100% positive
> feedback on eBay (on 19 transactions in the last 12 months), but does
> anyone
> have experience with Tuff Dawg engines, good or bad (you can write to me
> individually rather than post if you prefer)? I'm in the greater Seattle
> (Issaquah) area.
>
> Also, what cam or cam specs would be good for a fuel injected Cleveland
> for
> street use? He thought that the optimum would be different than with a
> carb.
>
> Tim
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