[DeTomaso] Fw: Pandora: It's deja vu all over again...

cengles at cox.net cengles at cox.net
Thu Aug 27 08:51:21 EDT 2009


Dear Will,

You wrote

"Even with the removable brace, I can see how it would be difficult to remove the pan. I think the key would be to a) remove the pipes, and b) use the correct cuss words."

$$$$$$$$ You know as I recall, I did part A and, before I was shown to loosen the trunion support, I did a lot of part B too. Sometimes I *start* a project with part B......... :-)

Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


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>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Aug 26, 2009 10:31 PM
>>To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>, detomaso at realbig.com
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Pandora: It's deja vu all over again...
>>
>>This confirms you are not the genius Lyle Kelsey thinks you are! <grin>
>>
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>>
>>Mad Dawg Antenucci
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>>________________________________
>>From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:20:51 PM
>>Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Pandora: It's deja vu all over again...
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
>>To: "Paul - Home" <thedrol at pobox.com>
>>Cc: <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:29 PM
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora: It's deja vu all over again...
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>>
>>>Dear Paul and Chris,
>>>
>>>You wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>"If you have a 10-quart oil pan it isn't likely that you will be able to
>>>drop the pan once you change the cross member to a removable one. I
>>>found that there just isn't space between the frame rails, shift linkage
>>>and hoses to get the 10 quart pan out unless you've modified the windage
>>>tray appropriately. It may be possible if you remove more stuff. Its
>>>been too long since I installed my 10 quart pan while the engine was in
>>>the car to remember what interferes with it."
>>>
>>>$$$$$$$ I did this during a chapter of engine building misadventure.
>>>Unfortunately, I can't recall exactly what the misadventure was, but I do
>>>recall dealing with this problem. The hangup after removal of the cross
>>>brace and oil pan bolts was the shift linkage. I was stumped and a real
>>>mechanic showed me the trick of loosening the nut on the trunion support
>>>to permit the linkage to move ever so slightly out of the way in order to
>>>get the pan off. I also recall that we had to modifiy the windage tray
>>>to permit re-installation.
>>>
>>>The next misadventure was a leaking rear main seal. I
>>>remembered the unpleasantness of the above mentioned operation and took a
>>>stiff triple shot of scotch and water and pulled the darn engine and
>>>proceeded to replace the rear main seal---voila no more leak. In my
>>>opinion, the engine out and in was a slightly lesser PITA than the very
>>>messy in-car job from below........
>>>
>>>I would agree with Larry and resign yourself to live with
>>>it for now and await the fullness of time for definite action.
>>>
>>>
>>>Warmest regards, Chuck "Engine
>>>Misadventures" Engles



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