[DeTomaso] Two things questions

Fri Aug 21 11:52:36 EDT 2009

Great advice.

I started to comment on the break in advice yesterday, but I held off.  Oh
well, so much for keeping my mouth shut.  Here's what I was going to say:

I don't agree with driving it hard to break it in.  I don't think it hurts,
but I don't think it's necessary, either.  The argument for breaking it in
hard is that the cross hatch wears off very fast.  I disagree.  If it
disappears that fast, then why is the crosshatch still visible several
thousand miles later?

Just like Bill said, just vary the RPM's, don't let it idle for a long
period, no matter how good it sounds.  Add break-in oils as recommended by
the cam manufacturer.  If it's a roller cam, there are no special break-in
oils.

Just be careful with it for the first few hundred miles.  Don't let it
overheat.  Watch for leaks.  Make sure the carburetor and timing is in the
ballpark.  Don't go on any long trips until you trust it.

I normally drive it in low gears on back roads rather than revving it to
3500 rpm's in my garage.  I also fill the oil a little higher than normal.
The cam only gets splash oiling.  More oil should equal more splash.

After 200 miles or so, I change the oil, adjust the valves, and drive it
normal - no racing.  I'm not easy on it to help the breakin.  I'm listening
for funny knocks, leaks, popping, etc.  It's hard to listen when you're
running it hard.

I change the oil again and adjust the valves at about 1,000 miles.  After
that, I change the oil on a normal schedule, plus I adjust the valves once a
year - when I'm bored.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of bill gaino
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:08 AM
To: michael frazier; lotus0005 at hotmail.com; larry at ohiotimecorp.com;
cdifani at pacbell.net; Mike Drew; pantera list
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two things questions

I   really like the body color engine bay. Mine stays pretty clean and I
throw a moving blanket there when I work on it. My car is a solid color red
and easy to touch up compared to metallic.  As far as breakin' in the crate
motor. Just run it at variable rpms, and I would fill it with Rotilla oil
that has the correct additives for a flat tappet cam. 2000 to 4000 rpm for a
few hundred miles.  Then drive it like you stole it Bro! before the warrenty
runs out. WAAAAA  Bill 1362
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>From: michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 21, 2009 10:43 AM
>To: lotus0005 at hotmail.com, larry at ohiotimecorp.com, cdifani at pacbell.net,
Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>, pantera list <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two things questions
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>  I've had "all of the above" on different cars.  One Pantera had a body
colored engine bay that was done as well as the
>
>great paint on the outside.  It looked great and wasn't that hard to
maintain, but it was more area to wash, wax & dust.
>
>I did worry about dinging it and took extra precautions while working in
there.  One car had the original coating.  While
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>you would think it was rugged, it too could be scraped and scratched and
looked even worse when you did.  The current
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>car is apart for a quick (yea right) refurb and will have a hybrid engine
bay.  I'm smoothing all the spot welds and lumps and bumps but I'm going to
paint it with some hard satin black finish.  I think that would be the best
for my vision of a neat
>
>purposeful car...getting away from the bling for blings sake.  I like
racecar  simplicity.
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>  A friend did his ina bed-liner material but it had a little too much
"tooth" and would hold all the dust as well as snag lint when he tried to
wipe it down. I'm sure you could thin the material for a smoother finish.
>
>Michael Frazier
>Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa 
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>> From: lotus0005 at hotmail.com
>> To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com; cdifani at pacbell.net; mikeldrew at aol.com;
detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:17:34 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Two things questions
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>> Question #1 - My car is in the paint & body shop. I have the option of
doing the engine bay the same as my exterior body paint, or doing some type
of "bedliner" type of paint.
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>> Obviously, the body paint looks fantastic!!! But, what about tools
falling, working on the engine, or if I want to use the "tub" to carry
luggage, etc.
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>> What have others done and how did you come to your decision?
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>> Question #2 - I am getting a new "crate" engine. It is fairly high HP,
but from a reliable company with a 24 month warranty. I am not a racer -
just an old dude who wants to feel good about his car.
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>> How should I break in the engine? I know this was covered recently, but
the thought then was to prepare it to be a racer - not a daily driver.
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>> Thanks, Bill Lewis
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