[DeTomaso] supercharger question

[Will Demelo]

Speaking of turbo's...Where has Crazy Dave Doddeck been? Has he sold his 
car?
Will
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From: "Will Kooiman" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>
To: "'Pantera REALBIG forum'" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question


> Dang.  I've gone through several possible engine combinations in my mind.
> 351C, stroker 351C, 4.6 dohc supercharged, 4.6 dohc turbo, 460, 392 Hemi,
> and even 429 Boss and 427 sohc (briefly).  I had finally made peace with
> 351C + Webers, and then you had to get me started all over again.  Dang 
> you.
>
> My opinion is that turbos would be -much- easier than a supercharger.  I'd
> cut 2 big holes for the exhaust, near where the mufflers are normally
> mounted.  I'd mount 2 turbos at the back with the exhaust going out the 
> big
> square hole where the a/c normally mounts.  With most turbos, you need an
> oil line, plus an oil return.  It will be frothy, so you'll need an
> accumulation tank - and then a pump to get it back to the pan.  If you 
> mount
> the turbos high, they can gravity drain to the pan, but that means you 
> can't
> mount them at the back.
>
> You can do a carburetor or EFI.  With EFI, you can make a ton of HP and 
> keep
> your drivability.  You'd be surprised at how much HP you can make with a
> carb and a turbo.  There's a website dedicated to carb+turbo.  It's pretty
> cool.  It's all drag racers, though, so you probably won't get a lot of 
> tech
> tips on how to make it idle AND run 30 lbs of boost.
>
> This is all a lot of work.  If you do it yourself, plan on killing at 
> least
> one engine.  If you hire it out, at least to size everything, you may have
> better luck.
>
> Ask a lot of questions about turbos.  I had a 4-cylinder turbo.  It ate
> spark plugs.  It had the turbo mounted close to the plugs, though.  It got
> pretty hot at times.
>
> My advice is to do a warmed over 351C.  Engine swaps, turbos, 
> superchargers,
> and so on are all a lot of work.  It's easy to do a simple performance 
> build
> on a 351C.  When you're done, you'll have plenty of power, and you'll get 
> to
> enjoy your car.  When you finally get bored with the power level, try
> something else.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of boyd casey
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:42 PM
> To: Göran Malmberg
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
>
> * noticed quite a few roller bearing turbos on ebay at what seemed like 
> very
> reasonable prices. I don't know enough about the rest of the plumbing to
> know what else you need and how to tie it in to the exhaust and the carb 
> or
> fuel injection and waste gate or inter coolers* plus there were all sorts 
> of
> different sizes so I would have to know how to choose the correct turbo to
> use. Y\With all the extra room at the back of the engine it would seem 
> like
> a more practical configuration then a rotary compressor on top of the 
> motor
> of a centrifugal compressor run from the front of the engine..
> Boyd
>
> 2009/8/14 Göran Malmberg <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>
>
>> My son used a centrifugal kompressor on his Volvo P1800.
>> With 22 psi and without intercooler and a 400 SBC it
>> managed 8,9 in the quarter. With a Lysholm compressor
>> we run a best of 9,4. Then the intake charge become to hot.
>> Goran
>>
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>> Aside from the obvious issues ofhood clearence and rear visability whic
>> is
>> the best type of super harger for a cleveland or windsor engine  , a
>> Paxton
>> Turbine type , or a top mounted with rotors. If someone can reccomend a
>> spscefic brand and the specs ( model #) or size relative to
>> displacement.
>>
>> Boyd
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