[DeTomaso] revised engine plan

Fri Aug 14 16:50:13 EDT 2009

That's why I have changed my mind about modifying my Cleveland and getting
uncertain results and instead looking at some one with an engine that is a
proven design and gives you am actual dyno of your new engine run hot not a
dyno of an engine built to the same design but the actual engine you are
buying.
Boyd

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>wrote:

> Boyd -
> If you want to build a killer motor, you have two choices.
>
> a) Do all the research yourself - determine which parts you think will work
> well together, ask opinions, and basically experiment with your own engine.
> b) Buy a package that someone else has done the experimention with already.
>
> As someone who has no practical experience whatsoever with superchargers in
> a Pantera, I can only observe that many have blown their Clevelands, but
> few
> people have kept them for years and years.
>
> On the other hand, there are a lot of strokers out there running around.
>
> I can only assume that there's a reason.
>
> Unless I knew firsthand of a reliable mechanic to build me a custom
> stroker,
> I'd probably lok for a reliable shop and buy a crate motor. You know all
> the
> parts will work well together, and having a 2 year warranty would give me a
> lot of peace of mind.
>
> Charles McCall
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
> nombre de boyd casey
> Enviado el: viernes, 14 de agosto de 2009 16:11
> Para: De Tomaso List
> Asunto: [DeTomaso] revised engine plan
>
> I looked at whipples web site and they didn't seem to have a product for a
> cleveland or a windsor. It seemed like all their super chargers were for
> late model fords and the hot rod models seemed to all be for chevy's It
> seem
> like there are allot more SC's for cheys. Or am I looking in the wrong
> places? I have been thinking about it and I think I am going at my engine
> upgrade ass backwards. When I started to put a pencil to it  I realized I
> coulsd spend $8000 on just an efi and then not have the right heads. If I
> go
> with new oistons heads a new cam I would be better off statring from
> scratch. If I am going to build a forced induction engine I need lower
> compression pistons. Check out this engine package:
>
> The quick revving 427 Cobra Special is a maximum effort performance engine
> that’s not for the faint of heart. Because it’s based on a 351 Windsor race
> block, it is approximately 140 pounds lighter than the older big blocks.
> >From the block to the crank, to the rods, to the induction system, the 427
> Cobra Special is built to be an all-conquering powerhouse, yet is still a
> street engine that runs on 91-octane pump gas. With its lumpy hydraulic
> roller cam, the exhaust note is one that says “don’t mess with me“, and has
> the power to back it up. Take a look at all the premium features of this
> engine and you’ll see this is a real world performance engine that has all
> the power your kit car or muscle car could want. And don’t forget to take a
> look at the options list to personalize your 427 Cobra Special. We have
> everything from dual-quads to Electronic Fuel Injection, to our bright and
> shiny polish package.
> • Individually dyno tested & calibrated with printout
> • Very strong exhaust tone
> • Requires 2,500+ stall converter
> • Minimum vacuum for power brakes
> • Accepts mechanical fuel pump
> • Requires 91 Octane fuel
> • 2 year limited warranty, unlimited mileage
>
>
> Smeding 427 Cobra Special Features
> Block: Dart Splayed Cab Four Bolt Mains, C.N.C Machined, 4.125 Bore,
> Scalloped Water Jackets, One Piece Rear Main Seal
> Crankshaft: 4340 Steel, Non-Twist Forging, Micro Polished, and Chamfered,
> Internal Balance, 4.000” Stroke
> Rods: 4340 Steel "H" Beam with 7/16" ARP Cap Bolts, 6.200" Length
> Pistons: LightWeight Forged, Reverse Dome, 10.2 Compression, with Wrist Pin
> Below Oil Ring
> Rings: Low Friction Single Moly 1/16” x 1/16” x 3/16”
> Camshaft: Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller .544”/.573” lift 238°/248°
> Duration
> @.050”
> Rocker Arms: 1.6 Ratio, Full Roller To Reduce Friction
> Intake: Edelbrock Victor Jr.
> Cylinder Heads: Smeding / AFR, 205cc Intake port, Fully C.N.C Ported,
> 2.08"/1.60" Valves
> Carburetor: Quick Fuel 750, Dual Feed, Double Pumper,Calibrated and Tuned
> on
> our Dyno.
> Distributor: Hall Effect Electronic, Polished Billet Aluminum Housing
>
> http://www.smedingperformance.com/ford/427+Cobra+Special+560+Horsepower.html
>
>
> This company has good ratings and customer feed back. In Fact Factory five
> uses them for some of their engines for their kit cars'
>
> This 427 is built on a brand new custom windsor block that has more neat so
> it can be bored and stroked to a 427 and still maintain the size off the
> windsor and  140 lbs less then a big block. They will also build your
> engine
> with a super charger if you want (and use the correct pistons) they also
> offer an edelbrock EFI , a weber set up ot dual quads. Basically what ever
> you want. It is all blue printed and balanced and they doe a hot run in and
> you get a dyno sheet from your actual engine. They are designed to give
> high
> torque and HP across the spectrum and run omn pump gas. This one puts out
> 560 HP
> 560 Horsepower
> 560 Ft. Lbs of Torque
> $9,995 As shown including
> dyno testing and tuning
>
> So fo $10,000 I could have a 560 hp tested engine with a 2 year unlimited
> mileage warranty! Plus I can modify it to any particulars I want and have
> it
> built so that everythingis matched up ( as opposed to attempting to add
> things like a super charger or efi that is not really matched to the
> engine)
>
> Boyd
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