[DeTomaso] supercharger question

Thu Aug 13 22:45:43 EDT 2009

So you are saying a whipple cranks out the ponies?. Does anyone know the
formula to determine the supper charger displacement relative to the engine
displacement? I know a turbo charger is supposed to put out more horsepower
but I don't like the lag and the heat that's why I am asking about a super
charger.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:36 PM, clay willmott <claywillmott at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> I agree the SVT with Eaton are amazing for the money.  I just picked up a
> 2004 Cobra with light mods and almost 500 RWHP and still has an Eaton.
>  Would Whipple it but already roasts upgraded wheels and tires at speed.
>  Not many cars with that much power and dependable for the money.
> Although it is way faster than my pantera (71) I still think the pcar
> handles better on curves and is more fun for driving.  The cobra is more fun
> for raw acceleration and power though.
>
> Didnt PIM sell a silver 5.4 lightning engined pantera that Steve W
> constructed awhile back for some big money?
>
> Clay
>
>
>
> > From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> > To: wkooiman at earthlink.net
> > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:27:34 -0500
> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
> >
> >
> > OK, Will... I disagree!
> >
> > My Lightning could ALWAYS use more HP. Except when I'm pulling a 24'
> > trailer through the rain uphill...
> > :-)
> >
> > At 122,000 miles, I think I need to experience some extra ponies.
> > You wouldn't believe what some guys are getting out of a 'stock' 5.4
> > Lightning....
> >
> >
> > On 13 Aug 2009, at 9:19 PM, Will Kooiman wrote:
> >
> > > Yes - a big can of worms.
> > >
> > > I've posted before that I had a 93 Mustang Cobra.  It had a warmed
> > > over 5.0.
> > > Nothing fancy, but plenty fast enough for getting around on the
> > > street.
> > >
> > > After I had it for several years, I finally decided that it would be
> > > fun to
> > > try a Vortech.  I got the kit designed for about 9lbs of boost.  I
> > > forget
> > > the model #.  With the Vortech, it was like driving on ice.  The
> > > tires spun
> > > easily.  Gas mileage did not go down.  It did not have an
> > > intercooler/aftercooler.
> > >
> > > Another data point:  My brother has a 2003 Cobra.  It has a 4.6 dohc
> > > with
> > > the factory Eaton.  He has done minor mods, mostly just a smaller
> > > pulley and
> > > a custom tune.  He makes about 430hp to the rear wheels - from
> > > 231".  That's
> > > impressive.  It has an air-water cooler under the blower.  Some of
> > > the 03
> > > Cobra guys are getting over 500hp, and probably even 600hp to the rear
> > > wheels with fairly simple mods (ported stock blower or upgrade to a
> > > Kenne
> > > Bell)
> > >
> > > My opinion - any blower will make more HP than you will use.  A twin
> > > screw
> > > would be easier to mount.  A centrifugal is a challenge.  A big GMC/
> > > BDS
> > > would be interesting if you could make it fit.  But... turbos would
> > > probably
> > > be even easier to mount, plus they'd make more hp.  If you're going
> > > to be a
> > > bear...
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:
> detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > > ] On
> > > Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:09 PM
> > > To: boyd casey
> > > Cc: De Tomaso List
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] supercharger question
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh my, Boyd! You've opened ANOTHER can of worms!
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Just kidding.
> > >
> > > What little I know...
> > >
> > > The Eaton rotor type works well with a nice performance increase, but
> > > it adds heat as you go for more boost.
> > > After all, there are a ton of them out there. I have one on my
> > > Lightning.
> > >
> > > Most everyone going for the ultimate HP gets rid of the Eaton.
> > >
> > > I now bow to 'those who know'.
> > >
> > > Kirby
> > >
> > > On 13 Aug 2009, at 8:52 PM, boyd casey wrote:
> > >
> > >> Aside from the obvious issues ofhood clearence and rear visability
> > >> whic is
> > >> the best type of super harger for a cleveland or windsor engine  , a
> > >> Paxton
> > >> Turbine type , or a top mounted with rotors. If someone can
> > >> reccomend a
> > >> spscefic brand and the specs ( model #) or size relative to
> > >> displacement.
> > >>
> > >> Boyd
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