[DeTomaso] De Tomaso Pantera Hood Vents

[Ken Green]

Boyd,
 
    I wondered about the BMW also.  I talked to old guy a while back who was into Bonneville stuff and he said there was a big cloud of dust that followed Panteras on the salt, and that meant that a lot of drag was created by the shape of the rear of the car.  I think that agreed with the article, so the streamlined front is probably not the problem.  
 
Ken
 

--- On Wed, 8/5/09, boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso Pantera Hood Vents
To: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
Cc: "Ron McCall" <rfmccall at comcast.net>, istarinc at pacbell.net, detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 9:41 PM


Has anyone had any luck downloading the non-condensed version of the
aerodynamics article. I can only down load the condensed article. It keeps
telling me the other file is corrupted. If you anyone has not looked at it
it shows very interesting illustrations of the airflow around the car. I am
interested in trying to work with the under the car aerodynamics to try to
limit lift and as a source for supplying cool air for the intake. It was
interesting to read that the BMW 540 ( a very square looking car)  (Square
as in cube shaped not square as in not cool) has a lower drag coefficient
then the Pantera which looks so streamlined! It just goes to show there is
allot more to it then just what you assume would be aerodynamically
efficient!

Boyd

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com> wrote:

> That would be great if you can take some measurements in some controlled
> experiments.  There is more folklore about the front-end airflow than
> real, hard data.
>
> Andrzej (Andrew) Wortman is doing similar work on the flow and
> turbulence around the rear deck lid (aka sugar scoop).  You can see his
> results to date here, http://www.poca.com/index.php/tech/50-aero  (login
> is required, but registration is free even for non-POCA members)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On Behalf Of boyd casey
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:02 PM
> To: Ron McCall
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso Pantera Hood Vents
>
> If anybody has a "worthless " cut steel hood that they are going to
> dispose
> of please let me know i will be happy to take them off your hands, I
> will
> even pay shipping. I will use them for my experiments in aerodynamics
> and
> studies of front lift and the effects of different hood vent
> configurations
> on front lift.  This is only half a joke . I don't think a vented hood
> is
> worthless but I am experimenting with  air flow and would like to do
> more
> research on under car aerodynamics for Panteras and answer the question
> on
> how hood vents effect front end lift at high speed. I don't have any
> hoods
> to experiment on so if anyone does really have a hood they no longer
> want
> and would like to contiribute to the cause I will take it and promise
> not to
> sell it. In fact I will return it when done.
>
> Boyd
> .
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Ron McCall <rfmccall at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 8/5/09 0 13 42, JDeRyke at aol.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > A cut
> > > steel hood is generally worth nothing.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > I REALLY wish I knew that a few months ago when I bought a
> > cut steel hood to replace my ill-fitting fiberglass hood!!!
> > I could have saved myself ALOT of money!
> >
> > Ron
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