[DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?

michael frazier red3644 at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 4 11:28:40 EDT 2009


I still say this will meet the REAL needs of most people wanting an IR-EFI unit on their Pantera. 

http://www.alsblowers.com/streetinduction.html

Michael

Gruppo Rompiculi Covetto
 
> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:32:27 -0500
> From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> 
> Fair enough.... but you change the heads and the headers have to change also.
> :-)
> 
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Kirby,
> >
> >     I was just thinking that if you're spending $5K on an EFI system,
> > another $2,500 for heads made sense, and that in particular, if you spend
> > more like $7,500 for a cross ram EFI, the heads make a lot of sense because
> > you can't use the manifold made for 4V heads on high port heads if you want
> > to go that way later.
> >
> >     I'm a little surprised that there aren't more Panteras with tunnel ram
> > based EFIs running around.  That seems like a lot of bang for the buck and I
> > think fits under the engine cover, but not the very cool appearance of the
> > IR system.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> > To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "Detomaso forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 4:17 AM
> >
> >
> > Actually, I put IR EFI on my Pantera with 4V iron heads back in 2000
> > and I'm quite impressed with it.
> > The setup gave the car a lot more low and mid range power. I got a
> > pretty good deal on it and would not have been able to afford all the
> > changes required for the high port heads (new headers required, etc.
> > etc.)
> >
> > Maybe I'm easily impressed?
> > :-)
> >
> > MD and I both got our manifolds from Kelly. I'm sure Kelly will make
> > more if required, but they ain't cheap.
> > Don Franck has a similar setup on his iron 4V heads as well.
> >
> > Yes, Don. I'm back from Kansas. Let's talk about tuning.
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Kirby
> >
> >
> > On 4 Aug 2009, at 12:37 AM, Ken Green wrote:
> >
> >> I think Mike used a very limited availability Kelly Coefield (SP?)
> >> EFI manifold made for high port SVO heads.  It may have been a one
> >> shot deal, but you'd have to ask Kelly.
> >>
> >> But I do think they had the right idea.  Why spend all the $s for an
> >> IR EFI for 4V heads?  Seems to make a lot more sense to upgrade to
> >> aluminum high ports heads if you are spending that kind of money.
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] You want EFI, why not ask the guy who knows?
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:23 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Taking a cue from the Mad Dog school of barking, why in the world are
> >> you guys messing around slackin' your jaws about which EFI  is the
> >> best,
> >> when there is a race-proven, screamin' killer EFI made by one of our
> >> own.  Mike Trusty.  Now if it's the bling your looking for, fine,
> >> spend
> >> five grand on a system that looks cool but won't mow the lawn.  For
> >> real
> >> performance, personalized service, tuning tips, blah, blah, blah....
> >> look no further than Mike.
> >>
> >> You want to see what it looks like?  Go here:
> >>
> >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=57&g2_itemId=1200
> >>
> >> You want to hear it run, you want to see it run?  Go here:
> >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/Images/The%20Injectors2.mov
> >>
> >> Mike has built EFI systems for Dennis (aka Mad Dog) Antenucci, Kirby
> >> Schrader, other GT40 owners, Lambo's Ferrari's Jag's, etc.  He's a
> >> mechanical engineer -and- a racer.  He just did some time at Road
> >> America with his GT40.  (Photos on TPR later).  This is a GO-TO guy
> >> for
> >> IR-EFI.
> >>
> >> Yea, I like the looks of a nice cross-ram setup, mate it with the
> >> right
> >> air boxes and it would look really cool.  But we don't have a lot of
> >> data on them.  Mike's system, we do.  And he's not that far away, can
> >> probably give you a good idea of what you'd need for your particular
> >> application.  Give him a shout, miketrusty at msn dot com.
> >>
> >> It doesn't hurt to ask.
> >> Asa Jay
> >>
> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >>
> >> & Shelley Marie
> >> Spokane, WA
> >>
> >> 1971 Mach I Mustang  [ASA JAY]
> >> 1973 Pantera L 5533  [ASASCAT]
> >>
> >> ******************************
> >> http://www.asajay.com
> >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
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