[DeTomaso] Anybody know just about how many roadworthyPanterasexist in the USA?

Garth Rodericks garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 14 12:38:32 EDT 2009


No, no, no...  SWAG is an engineering term which stands for "Scientific Wild Ass Guess"


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Serious Wild Assed Guess



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From: Dave McManus <dave at damardirect.com>
To: John Maffeo <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com>; cengles at cox.net; larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:52:23 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know just about how many roadworthyPanterasexist in the USA?

I thought SWAG was Simplified Wild Ass Guess.

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From: John Maffeo [mailto:johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:29 PM
To: cengles at cox.net; larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know just about how many
roadworthyPanterasexist in the USA?

When I worked at Boeing, we had the WAG (wild-assed-guess), and the SWAG
(supervised-wild-assed-guess).

John




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From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:01:02 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know just about how many roadworthy
Panterasexist in the USA?


Dear Larry, 


I am indignant with your "wild ass guess" insinuation. We professional
economists make precise wild ass guesses!!! ;-) 


Warmest regards, Chuck Engles



---- Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
><<I used to be an economist for the U.S. Treasury dept>>
>
>So what you are saying is that this is really a "Wild Ass Guess"...
>
>Larry (it's best they do) - Cleveland
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
>Behalf Of cengles at cox.net
>Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:23 AM
>To: michael at michaelshortt.com
>Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know just about how many roadworthy
>Panterasexist in the USA?
>
>
>Dear Michael,
>
>
>I agree with your estimate. My guesswork says that there were roughly 6000
>Panteras in the States in 1975. I guess that half are gone due to wrecks
and
>rust, leaving about 3000 Pantera units. Of that, I guess that half are
>disabled, under restoration, unsafe to drive or unable to start, i.e. they
>ain't runnin' units. Final guess: 1250 to 1500 Panteras that are driveable
>some distance........remember it is all guesswork.
>
>I used to be an economist for the U.S. Treasury dept, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>---- "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>I'd bet the number is closer to 1,500 that actually run and are roadworthy
>)
>>licensed and tagged in the 50 states.
>>
>>There must be a way to find out, even if it's a state by state effort
>>searching for DeTomaso Registrations through DMV offices.
>>
>>In my neck of the woods, I know of mine, two that are driven ( both on
>>Hilton Head Island ) and one in Savannah sitting in the same garage for
the
>>last 30 years.
>>At least one in Charleston that runs.
>>
>>I bought www.detomasopanteraregistry.com a few years ago in anticipation
of
>>getting a count, but it soon became apparent that the ownership is
>>scattered and true to the Pantera mystique and/or culture less likely to
go
>>with the flow and join en masse. ( I haven't done anything with it, so
>don't
>>bother clicking on it ).
>>
>>We are a collection of strong individuals, perhaps that's the only REAL
>>requirement ( other than $ ) to become an owner, I have yet to meet
>>a bigger group of A type personalities with a singular common interest
>>anywhere.
>>
>>Long live us while we care for these fabulous cars for next group who will
>>share custody of these machines in the years ahead.
>>Morbid thoughts, but I have to say that when I go to cars shows and I see
>>all the great pre and post war cars, I often get lost in ( ADD?)
>>thought wondering about the people who bought them new and those that came
>>later.
>>Just how cool was the guy who bought a Cord 810 Conv brand new? What was
>>the motive behind a guy who didn't race
>>who walked into a Ford dealer in 1965 and bought a Cobra?
>>
>>
>>Michael Shortt
>>
>>
>>Michael Shortt
>>
>>On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:27 AM, <JDeRyke at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In a message dated 4/12/09 8:43:07 PM, fresnofinches at aol.com writes:
>>>
>>>>I'll say 2000 to 2500, at the VERY most.
>>>>
>>>I think Steve Wilkinson, who sees and deals with far more Panteras than
>>>anyone else, has estimated that there were around 6500 Panteras of all
>>>models
>>>sold world-wide. About half are still mobile, again world-wide. So
Larry's
>>>estimate, for the U.S, is as accurate as anyone's. FWIW- J Deryke
>>>
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