[DeTomaso] engine question

[Christopher Kimball]

They are ceramic coated.  The tips are a bit disappointing though; they seem to point down a bit, instead of upward as did the stock ones.  Plus they aren't chrome!  I think I'll get some upswept chrome tips for them pretty soon.  Hey, I don't have those chrome pipes on the engine cover anymore--I've got to get my shine fix somewhere!

I think you mean Larry Rebsamen--the frame guy.  It looks like after repairing all the rotted frame pieces in the back, including the shock towers, the lower back brace, upper pieces and the front beam, and after he enlarges the fuel line, the bill will be about $4000.  That doesn't include the $550 I paid Pantera Performance for the two replacement panel pieces I had to get.

Nothing like increasing my "new engine project" price by 50%!

Sincerely,

Chris



From: mbefthomas at comcast.net
To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] engine question
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:45:55 -0700










A good idea, as anyone who buys it would pull it apart anyway, and 
you can describe what you are selling better.
 
The flanges need to be loose so they can be adjusted to meet the 
exhaust pipes.  Have they been ceramic coated?  If not, seriously 
consider it.
 
Lyell is an interesting character.  Any idea what your final 
bill is going to be?
 
Mike



From: Christopher Kimball 
[mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:37 
PM
To: Mike Thomas; Pantera List Serve
Subject: RE: 
[DeTomaso] engine question


If this pending sale falls through, the next thing I'm going to do is 
begin taking the whole thing apart.  First, it will help me understand 
motors better, and second, I'll bet I can sell the individual parts for more 
than the whole thing all at once.

Thanks!

Chris

PS:  
The mind train exhaust arrived in the mail today; they look good.  The 
flanges are loose, however.  Is this the way they're supposed to be, or are 
they supposed to be welded to the end of the pipes?  It appears they were 
used as is, so I guess with the right gaskets there must not be a need to have 
the flanges welded.



> From: mbefthomas at comcast.net
> To: 
chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 
engine question
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:43:33 -0700
> 
> 
Chris. The 4-bolt question refers to the number of bolts holding each 
crank
> journal. If you have the oil pan off of your motor, roll it on the 
engine
> stand (or bend over and look), and you'll see the 5 (?) bars 
across the
> bottom of the block that hold the crank shaft in - those are 
the rod
> journals. If there are two bolts on each one, you have an engine 
with
> "2-bolt mains" referring to the crank, or "main" bearings. If there 
are 4
> on each, 2 inner and 2 outer, you have a "4-bolt" engine.
> 

> All of the Pantera 351 Cleveland engines came with 4-bbl heads, the 
more
> important question is whether they are closed or open (combustion) 
chamber.
> You won't be able to tell that unless you pull the heads off of 
the engine.
> Given the serial number of your car, if they are the 
original heads, they
> could be either type.
> 
> Mike 

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> 
Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:17 
PM
> To: Pantera List Serve
> Subject: [DeTomaso] engine 
question
> 
> 
> I have someone interested in my old engine, 
but he asked whether or not it
> was a four-bolt with four barrell heads. 
At least, I think that's what he
> said.
> 
> 
> 

> I'm not exactly sure what that means, but my motor has certain numbers 
on it
> which may tell those of you that know these sort of 
things.
> 
> 
> 
> On the block, there is a raised 
circle with a 10 on it, and elsewhere on the
> block these numbers are 
shown: 231, and below that 92AE-CA. The Edelbrock
> manifold has the 
numbers F3514V.
> 
> 
> 
> Do these numbers reveal the 
four bolt & heads questions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 

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