[DeTomaso] EFI for 351 Cleveland

Larry - Ohio Time Corp larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Mon Sep 29 13:42:16 EDT 2008


Ya, Ya that's my story and I am sticking to it. I can't finish my car cause
Dan Jones has my Weber set up and has now run off with a Geisha Girl.

Larry (ty Asa Jay) - Cleveland




-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:17 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] EFI for 351 clevland

So what you're really trying to say Larry, is that the Panteras aren't  
running -because- they don't have Webers on them?

;)
Asa Jay

Quoting Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>:

> MD,
>
>
>
> If by "none" you mean the 1.75 Panteras I own, you are correct oh wise
one.
> But everything else runs. That is 5 out of 6.75. That's an A in my grade
> book.
>
>
>
> Larry (always on a curve) - Cleveland
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Mad Dog Antenucci [mailto:teampantera at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:00 AM
> To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com; 'boyd casey'; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] EFI for 351 clevland
>
>
>
> Yea, but none of your cars run either ;-]>
>
> Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
>
> Hugh,
>
> I am compelled to answer this question so that you get equal unbiased
> replies on each side of your question.
>
> Reasons to install EFI in your car:
>
> You want more HP and TQ
> You want it to start and idle every time
> You want it to run like your Honda
> You have a Triple Platinum Master Card and know how to use it
> You are a geek and love computers
> You always wanted to learn programming
> You are better with a mouse then a mallet
> Wires and sensors are your life
> You celebrate Edison's and Tesla's birthdays every year
> You like to ware woman's clothes
>
> Reasons to install Webers:
>
> You want to learn how to pump a carb 1.5 times (once and it will not
start,
> twice and you will flood it) as it has no choke
> You always wanted 8 single cylinder motors all in one
> You want to learn to curse in Italian
> Elvis' Pantera had a carb
> You enjoy the sound of an old Swiss watch as it ticks
> You like to tinker
> Your grandfathers clock is run by weights and not a D cell battery
> You would rather drink a fine aged Kentucky whisky then a pint of MD 20/20
> out of a paper bag
> God has Webers
>
>
> I have done two Weber conversions and have a third, my Pantera, in
planning.
> The complete Weber set up is sitting on the shelf in my shop, well Dan
Jones
> has it now on his mantel for a bit now.
>
> My first conversion was a 1971 Dotson 240Z. A single Weber replaced two SU
> copy carbs. You would have thought a V8 was put in. It transformed a good
> car into a great car. I replaced that car with a new 1976 280Z with EFI.
It
> ran good but had no heart or sole. I ended up trading the car for my
> Pantera.
>
> The second conversion is on my 1971 MGB, just a few years ago. It runs and
> sounds great. It still has a few bugs in it, but I like them. The motor
has
> creature and life. Nothing sounds like a Weber when your foot is on the
> floor board.
>
> I would be the perfect person to do EFI. I work with computers all day
long
> (network admin, programming, software support). I must have 40 computers
> with a server in my shop too. I can also fix clocks. I must have 50
antique
> clocks in my house. When someone asks me what time it is, I tell them to
> look on the microwave, so I do know both sides. EFI is 100% the best way
to
> control a motor, just not the motors in my play cars!
>
> I vote Weber!!!
>
> Larry (just say no) - Cleveland
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Larry Homolak
> Ohio Time Corporation
> 9401 Olde Eight Rd.
> Northfield, Ohio 44067
> Phone : 330-467-2430
> Fax: 330-467-9560
> Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> www.ohiotimecorp.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On
> Behalf Of boyd casey
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:09 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] EFI for 351 clevland
>
> I have a 1973 Pantera Land I am considering installing either 4 Weber
IDA's
> or a "weber style " throttle body EFI set up. I am looking for feed back
on
> performance differences between the actual webers vs the "weber Look" EFI.
> If anybody has dyno comparisons or real life experience I would love to
hear
> about it . Also anyone with experience or knowledge concerning using the
> different throttle body "weber style" EFI systems. I know there are
> several different makes available( redline, Imagine injection, TWM) to
name
> a few. Any body willing to share their expierience or opinion would be
> welcome. I really like the "weber Look" I can install weber carbs for
around
> half the price of EFI ( as far as I can tell) I can do the webers
including
> the carbs , manifold, linkage for around $3000. The EFI including
everything
> including computer and software looks like it will run between $5000 and
> $6900. I am intersted in knowing if the efi is worth the extra expense.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hugh
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