[DeTomaso] EFI for 351 clevland

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Yea, but none of your cars run either ;-]>

Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:  Hugh,

I am compelled to answer this question so that you get equal unbiased
replies on each side of your question.

Reasons to install EFI in your car:

You want more HP and TQ
You want it to start and idle every time
You want it to run like your Honda
You have a Triple Platinum Master Card and know how to use it
You are a geek and love computers
You always wanted to learn programming
You are better with a mouse then a mallet
Wires and sensors are your life
You celebrate Edison's and Tesla's birthdays every year
You like to ware woman's clothes

Reasons to install Webers:

You want to learn how to pump a carb 1.5 times (once and it will not start,
twice and you will flood it) as it has no choke
You always wanted 8 single cylinder motors all in one
You want to learn to curse in Italian
Elvis' Pantera had a carb
You enjoy the sound of an old Swiss watch as it ticks
You like to tinker
Your grandfathers clock is run by weights and not a D cell battery
You would rather drink a fine aged Kentucky whisky then a pint of MD 20/20
out of a paper bag
God has Webers


I have done two Weber conversions and have a third, my Pantera, in planning.
The complete Weber set up is sitting on the shelf in my shop, well Dan Jones
has it now on his mantel for a bit now.

My first conversion was a 1971 Dotson 240Z. A single Weber replaced two SU
copy carbs. You would have thought a V8 was put in. It transformed a good
car into a great car. I replaced that car with a new 1976 280Z with EFI. It
ran good but had no heart or sole. I ended up trading the car for my
Pantera.

The second conversion is on my 1971 MGB, just a few years ago. It runs and
sounds great. It still has a few bugs in it, but I like them. The motor has
creature and life. Nothing sounds like a Weber when your foot is on the
floor board.

I would be the perfect person to do EFI. I work with computers all day long
(network admin, programming, software support). I must have 40 computers
with a server in my shop too. I can also fix clocks. I must have 50 antique
clocks in my house. When someone asks me what time it is, I tell them to
look on the microwave, so I do know both sides. EFI is 100% the best way to
control a motor, just not the motors in my play cars!

I vote Weber!!!

Larry (just say no) - Cleveland






Larry Homolak
Ohio Time Corporation
9401 Olde Eight Rd.
Northfield, Ohio 44067
Phone : 330-467-2430
Fax: 330-467-9560
Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
www.ohiotimecorp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of boyd casey
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:09 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] EFI for 351 clevland

I have a 1973 Pantera Land I am considering installing either 4 Weber IDA's
or a "weber style " throttle body EFI set up. I am looking for feed back on
performance differences between the actual webers vs the "weber Look" EFI.
If anybody has dyno comparisons or real life experience I would love to hear
about it . Also anyone with experience or knowledge concerning using the
different throttle body "weber style" EFI systems. I know there are
several different makes available( redline, Imagine injection, TWM) to name
a few. Any body willing to share their expierience or opinion would be
welcome. I really like the "weber Look" I can install weber carbs for around
half the price of EFI ( as far as I can tell) I can do the webers including
the carbs , manifold, linkage for around $3000. The EFI including everything
including computer and software looks like it will run between $5000 and
$6900. I am intersted in knowing if the efi is worth the extra expense.

Thanks,

Hugh
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