[DeTomaso] Cleveland Timing Set

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Hahahaha - "phenolic"   ????

Pressed sawdust is what I remember (volvo parts dept early 1970s).

the Pete Jackson gearset might be a little better.  Will it outwear  
the double roller chain????? dunno.





Quoting Thomas Tornblom <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se>:

> cengles at cox.net skrev:
>> Dear Thomas and Asa,
>>
>> I understand the cool factor with gear drive. I understand it has a  
>>  cool sound. I understand that it is supposed to more "accurately   
>> time cam events" than a timing chain.
>>
>> Dumb question: Does it ever "wear out" like a double roller timing chain?
>
> Oh, I have no idea.
>
> I do know that old Volvos, the B18/B20 and the B30 used gear drive. The
> cam gear was phenolic on the old B18 and I know of at least one engine
> making horrible and seemingly expensive noises when it was just the
> phenolic part that had come loose from the steel hub. Amazingly the cam
> gear still worked, but it was rattling around like crazy.
>
> I think that the marine versions (Volvo-Penta) was all metal.
>
> Thomas
>
>>
>> Curious, Chuck Engles
>>
>> PS: I called Summit: the 351C set *might* be available, but Summit   
>> found that it wasn't reliably and immediately available and ceased   
>> to carry it. So, a direct contact to PJ Gear Drives would answer   
>> that question, but I can't find any way to directly contact them   
>> even through their website---they seem to be a secretive bunch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Thomas Tornblom <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se> wrote:
>>> Asa Jay Laughton skrev:
>>>> I put a Pete Jackson quiet gear drive:
>>>> Summit Racing:
>>>> http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=PJJ-289-9C&autoview=sku
>>> That one is for windsors.
>>>
>>> Looking at:
>>>
>>> http://www.petejacksongeardrives.net/24122.html
>>>
>>> it seems it is discontinued, and I don't see any cleveland gears either.
>>>
>>>
>>>> in my 1971 Mach I. I can still hear it, but it's not bad at all
>>>> really. Once it gets some revs to it, it begins to sound a bit like a
>>>> blower, so there is that cool factor. Overall I'd do it again.
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
>>>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>>>>
>>>> &Shelley Marie
>>>> Spokane, WA
>>>>
>>>> 1973 Pantera L 5533
>>>> [ASASCAT]
>>>>
>>>> ******************************
>>>> http://www.asajay.com
>>>> http://www.351c.info
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tony DiGiovanna wrote:
>>>>> I have previously seen more chain stretch than I like, even with good
>>>>> quality double roller sets and hole drilled in front galley plug  
>>>>>  for extra
>>>>> oiling. I am considering trying a gear drive in a new engine   
>>>>> build. Please
>>>>> post me your experiences good or bad. Please include mfr and model. Seem
>>>>> to recall there are really noisy ones and not so noisy ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys in advance.
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