[DeTomaso] Aluminum Cleveland Block

[LS]

Indeed, I am starting to entertain that angle of thinking myself. The Windsor would be lighter, smaller, cheaper in all Al form. Also, the delicious T304 stainless 180s that I'd like to use would be more readily available and cheaper.
 
I do like the fact that the C was original to most and also raced by the factory and at Le Mans. But, the W is not incorrect.
 
What a nutty decision. 

What about GM LS V8? Just kidding...
 
Thanks,
LS



----- Original Message ----
From: John Zeedick <Pantera351C at Hotmail.Com>
To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:42:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aluminum Cleveland Block

LS:

I would stuff anything made by ford/BMW/or a hemi in a Pantera because of my
weird philosophy of that if the car builder installed one in any of his cars
he made it is ok to install it in your car...weird maybe. I remember reading
a road and track with an article about The European Pantera GTS. It stated
that the car came with a Windsor because the supply of clevelands dried up.

Pantera Cleveland/Windsor/5 liter/Hemi (Hemi after ford axed the program and
Iacocca tried to see if he could sell the Pantera under the Chrysler badge.
He had a Hemi installed.

Guara (1st car produced) Bimmer V8. A bimmer v8 uncorked just sounds too
good.


Install away I say and best of luck

John




On 9/24/08 12:56 PM, "LS" <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bill, Chuck, thanks for the replies and updates.
>  
> I can't believe nobody in AUS has put one together yet...
>  
> Is installing a Windsor in an early Pantera blasphemous??'t'
>  
> Thanks,
> LS
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:38:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Aluminum Cleveland Block
> 
> 
> Dear LS, 
> The short answer is that no one is reliably producing aluminum 351 C blocks
> and there are none, reliable or not, readily available.
> The long answer is that there were a very few aluminum blocks cast by Ford for
> racing purposes. You won't find any of these . Todd Buttermore has experience
> with engine casting and production. He has embarked on a project to create a
> new, improved 351C with corrections and improvements on the old design. He has
> cast up a few blocks. He is not reliably producing them, but he intends to
> provide them in aluminum and iron. To my knowledge, this block has not yet
> been assembled into a working engine nor tested in the real world. It seems
> very promising, but it certainly will be a while before it is available.
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> 
> ---- LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is anyone reliably producing Al 351C blocks today?
>> 
>> I have seen talk about tooling up some from different manufacturers, but
>> can't find any readily available sources.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> LS
>> 
>> 
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