[DeTomaso] Laminova oil cooler

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Wed Sep 3 23:46:40 EDT 2008


JUST ONE MAN, but that's all I got... please don't tow it away.

oh wait... that message wasn't directed to me....

nevermind.


Asa Jay
<slacker in training>

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired

& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA

1973 Pantera L 5533
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Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:
> How many inoperable Pantera's do you have at home slacker?
>
> Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:  Sorry, I did not read that far down to see go...
>
> Larry (Evelyn Wood dropout) - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of adin at frontier.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: JDeRyke at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova oil cooler
>
> Ahhh, another documentation challenge!
>
> well, let's see . . . in my over instrumented daily driver (302 fi) 
> the engine oil starts to warm before any water is circulated 
> (thermostat opens). In order to warm the oil the luminova water would 
> have to come right our of the engine. Conversely, to cool the oil we 
> would want the luminova water going into the engine from the radiator.
>
> In my daily driver during the majority of the duty cycle, the engine 
> coolant temps run a stable 195 +/- a few (195 thermostat). Coolant 
> exiting the radiator varies greatly - 50degrees during morning start 
> up to about 190ish when the cooling fans come on. Coolant temps have 
> yet to exceed 200. the oil temps seem to run between 195 (coasting 
> down the mountain) to about 210 during a hard climb up the mountain. 
> (thus my concern that I "may" need an oil cooler for track days) 
> Pretty amazing oil temp control in that little ford motor.
>
> the daily driver, btw, is a miata w/ a 302 - part of the conversion 
> process is mating the miata gauges to the ford mechanicals. When I 
> got this I had no idea what anything was doing, what the gauge reading 
> meant, when the fans were coming on/going off (easy larry) or anything 
> else. I found that the "normal" miata gauge reading was really 160 
> degrees in the motor (which was in cold startup mode all the time) and 
> the "almost on the peg" reading was actually 195 - right where I 
> wanted it. Fans come on at 185 and go off at 170. I now also know 
> that the motor that wouldn't rev past 4000 rpm does - the miata tach 
> does NOT. Lesson? If you don't know what you have . . . why do you 
> want to change it?
>
> After all these years I must admit, the Pantera oil is probably toooo 
> cool most of the time. It IS nice to be in the pits in p'rump w/ 195 
> degree oil while everyone else is sweating temps and squirting 
> coolant. (Go Larry!)
>
> cheers,
>
> David in Durango, still grouchy and dirty but fully instrumented and
> informed.
>
>
>
>
> Quoting JDeRyke at aol.com:
>
>   
>> In a message dated 9/3/08 12:43:38 PM, adin at frontier.net writes:
>>
>>     
>>> Am I confused here?  Isn't the big advantage of the water/oil cooling the
>>> very fact that it also heats the oil as the water temp climbs???? and, in
>>>       
> a
>   
>>> second hand way, the oil temp is controlled - nope too strong a 
>>> word - the oil
>>> temp is urged to somewhat follow the water temp???
>>>
>>>       
>> All true -in Summer. In the winter, oil temps climb VERY slowly and
>> over-cooling oil with heat exchangers is common. Most systems have a 
>> shut-off (manual
>> or automatic) in the circuit for cold weather driving. FWIW- J DeRyke
>>
>>
>>
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