[DeTomaso] Laminova oil cooler

[adin at frontier.net]

None.


Quoting Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>:

> How many inoperable Pantera's do you have at home slacker?
>
> Larry - Ohio Time Corp <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:  Sorry, I did  
>  not read that far down to see go...
>
> Larry (Evelyn Wood dropout) - Cleveland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of adin at frontier.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: JDeRyke at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Laminova oil cooler
>
> Ahhh, another documentation challenge!
>
> well, let's see . . . in my over instrumented daily driver (302 fi)
> the engine oil starts to warm before any water is circulated
> (thermostat opens). In order to warm the oil the luminova water would
> have to come right our of the engine. Conversely, to cool the oil we
> would want the luminova water going into the engine from the radiator.
>
> In my daily driver during the majority of the duty cycle, the engine
> coolant temps run a stable 195 +/- a few (195 thermostat). Coolant
> exiting the radiator varies greatly - 50degrees during morning start
> up to about 190ish when the cooling fans come on. Coolant temps have
> yet to exceed 200. the oil temps seem to run between 195 (coasting
> down the mountain) to about 210 during a hard climb up the mountain.
> (thus my concern that I "may" need an oil cooler for track days)
> Pretty amazing oil temp control in that little ford motor.
>
> the daily driver, btw, is a miata w/ a 302 - part of the conversion
> process is mating the miata gauges to the ford mechanicals. When I
> got this I had no idea what anything was doing, what the gauge reading
> meant, when the fans were coming on/going off (easy larry) or anything
> else. I found that the "normal" miata gauge reading was really 160
> degrees in the motor (which was in cold startup mode all the time) and
> the "almost on the peg" reading was actually 195 - right where I
> wanted it. Fans come on at 185 and go off at 170. I now also know
> that the motor that wouldn't rev past 4000 rpm does - the miata tach
> does NOT. Lesson? If you don't know what you have . . . why do you
> want to change it?
>
> After all these years I must admit, the Pantera oil is probably toooo
> cool most of the time. It IS nice to be in the pits in p'rump w/ 195
> degree oil while everyone else is sweating temps and squirting
> coolant. (Go Larry!)
>
> cheers,
>
> David in Durango, still grouchy and dirty but fully instrumented and
> informed.
>
>
>
>
> Quoting JDeRyke at aol.com:
>
>>
>> In a message dated 9/3/08 12:43:38 PM, adin at frontier.net writes:
>>
>>> Am I confused here?  Isn't the big advantage of the water/oil cooling the
>>> very fact that it also heats the oil as the water temp climbs???? and, in
> a
>>> second hand way, the oil temp is controlled - nope too strong a
>>> word - the oil
>>> temp is urged to somewhat follow the water temp???
>>>
>> All true -in Summer. In the winter, oil temps climb VERY slowly and
>> over-cooling oil with heat exchangers is common. Most systems have a
>> shut-off (manual
>> or automatic) in the circuit for cold weather driving. FWIW- J DeRyke
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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