[DeTomaso] efi vs Weber respondents

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

In a perfect world (like the one on the List) one good Holly carburator would work for everything (street, track & open road race ) from idle to WOT. After 25 years of looking for the perfect induction system I think I am closer with the IR-EFI system Mike Trusty built.
   
  Dawg 
Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
  Right - It wasn't the question of getting it to breathe up to 6500,
but what the oiling and stiffness mods are that keep it spinning up there.
dave

asajay at asajay.com wrote:
> My last build revs beautifully to 7,000 rpm...
> ... but tends to bend valves at that point (trust me on this, I know).
>
> The specs are for a max RPM of 6,500. I do not have a rev limiter 
> built in, so I have to use my personal built in rev limiter, often 
> call a "right foot" in order to keep the r's down.
>
> I do -not- know how long the engine would -last- at that rpm (6,500) 
> though, so I'm not claiming to have the greatest build ever, but it 
> does got that high.
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Charles McCall :
>
> 
>> I, too, would be interested in hearing Chuck's magic recipe because it
>> sounds like he's onto something!
>>
>> My two cents is that my engine will happily rev to 6500 rpm when the
>> rev-limiter kicks in. It's a compltely different engine to any other I've
>> had (5 different Clevelands in two different Panteras). I followed Dan
>> Jones' recipe to the letter, and am unsure whether it is the intake (Weiand
>> Xcelerator), the cam with its solid lifters (Compcams 282S) or what.
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
>> nombre de Dave Londry
>> Enviado el: viernes, 31 de octubre de 2008 19:40
>> Para: cengles at cox.net
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] efi vs Weber respondents
>>
>> Very nice Chuck.
>> What mods allow the 6500 rpm?
>> dave
>>
>> cengles at cox.net wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Will,
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "I don't even think it would look cool. The Holley TBI looks like an EFI
>>> 
>> smog contraption typical of the EFI's available in the early 80's. Holleys
>> look great. Carters look great. The Holley TBI doesn't look bad, but it
>> isn't a carburetor, and it isn't an elegant looking EFI. It just looks like
>> a wad of crap. It may run great, though. '
>> 
>>> "If I did the Holley injection, I'd make sure it was covered with a nice
>>> 
>> looking air filter. Then, who cares what it looks like?"
>> 
>>> Egad. You have a gift for succinct commentary! I like it.
>>>
>>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>> PS: I have thought about the Holley EFI after Paul Rimov's comments about
>>> 
>> EFI and Clevelands. I will equal thought to a functional and stylish air
>> filter to cover it up should I ever take the plunge.
>> 
>>> PSS: Newest engine just freshly dynoed with a boring ol' Holley 4150 carb
>>> 
>> tweaked by Chuck Nuytten Carbs in Texas with iron heads, hydraulic cam and
>> pump gas 483 HP at 6500 rpm and 436 ft-lbs of torque at 5800 rpm with a nice
>> torque curve. I am thrilled. Do I really need EFI? I am not sure.........
>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 

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