[DeTomaso] Tjaarda Pantera sold for $100,000

[John Taphorn]

Mike

Thanks for the straight scoop on this car.  You are quite a resource.

Frankly, I was thinking that a Pantera owned and personalized by TJ would 
offer significant provenance worthy of a premium to market prices. 
Obviously, others did as well, namely Barrett Jackson and HST, who 
misrepresented the car in its description on the website to propel bidding 
northward.  They clearly stated the car was owned bought by TJ who was 
motivated to buy a Pantera and update it's exterior and interior styling. 
As described in the auction material, I thought the selling price to be one 
I could rationalize.

Of course the new owner will most likely fight till the death that this is 
actually Tom's ex-car to protect his investment with the BJ documentation 
adding continued life to the misrepresentation. Who could blame him. I'm not 
litigious in nature; but, in this instance, I'd be calling the lawyers had I 
been the buyer.

If your perceived comps on the car is accurate and it is a $40,000 car.  The 
$60,000 premium plus commissions paid for the provenance that TJ's name lent 
to it is very difficult to justify.

JT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: <Pantdino at aol.com>; <johnmckee at cox.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>; 
<bob at dodgecarroll.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tjaarda Pantera sold for $100,000


>
> In a message dated 10/21/08 20 20 28, pantdino at aol.com writes:
>
>
>> This is what I was thinking. And it puts paid to the notion that all
>> Panteras should have original Campys or look-alike wheels, in my opinion. 
>> If Tom
>> chose other wheels for his car, doesn't it follow that he thought they 
>> looked
>> better on the car?? I think if he really loved the TJ Design wheels that 
>> much
>> he would have gotten himself a set when they were available.?
>>
>
> Dude.   Tom Tjaarda doesn't own a Pantera.   He never did.   This was not
> "his" Pantera, Barrett-Jackson razzmatazz notwithstanding.
>
> He has a business that is involved with design projects etc., and he has
> teamed up with a company called HST International, which has a small 
> manufacturing
> company in Mexico, and a small design firm in California.   (The HST 
> facility
> in Mexico is building the Shelby CSX 4000 series continuation Cobras for
> Shelby, among other things).
>
> He sketched some ideas for a new front and rear end on a Pantera.   HST
> bought a Pantera a few months before Monterey, they fabbed up the 
> prototype pieces,
> stuck 'em on, and there you go.
>
> By the time this whole project started, the Tjaarda Design wheels were 
> long
> gone (although I think PI Motorsports had them built by Boyd Coddington, 
> so I
> see no reason why they couldn't make another set if necessary).   HST
> International is also the manufacturer of GT Legend Wheels, which is why 
> they appeared
> on this car--whether they suited it or not.
>
> I don't know if this was just a project designed to keep Tom's name in the
> public eye, or what.   HST International makes Tjaarda Design body kits 
> for
> Mustangs, and it stands to reason that they could put these Pantera pieces 
> into
> production quite easily, but he told me they had no intention of doing so.
>
> Interestingly, Tom had so little personal experience with 'his' Pantera 
> that
> he couldn't remember how to get the decklid open!   At Concorso Italiano,
> Larry Stock watched him open the door to get out of the car, and reach 
> down to the
> B-pillar to pull up on the lever to open the decklid (because of course
> that's where he originally designed it).   He was rather perplexed to find 
> it
> missing!   Larry then had to remind him that most Panteras were equipped 
> with a
> pushbutton decklid release at the back of the car, and they both had a 
> good laugh
> over it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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