[DeTomaso] Tonight's debate: Vette vs. Pantera..

boyd casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 16 19:31:22 EDT 2008


The Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4's published performance specs are close to an NSX
on paper and that's the only place they can be compared. The Mitsubishi is
one of the biggest pices of automotive crap ever pushed on the public. With
twin turbos they were squeezing every ounce of HP they could get. The NSX is
natuarly aspirated if you put one turbo on it it will crush just about any
sports car on he road ( not a dragstrip) Look at what a 3000 gt VR4 (Dodge
stealth with some extra toys) is worth today ( if you can find one that
still runs)
I thought this sight was about Panteras and other quality cars not Junk!
P.S. They only thing a Mitsubishi could blow was not doors.
Boyd

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Steve Hawkins <shawkins777 at comcast.net>wrote:

> I had a 3000GT twin turbo that would blow the doors off of an NSX, great
> styling and handling also.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:36 AM
> To: Tom Baranek-Home; michael at michaelshortt.com; adin at frontier.net
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tonight's debate: Vette vs. Pantera..
>
>
> The NSX is beautiful Tom.
>  An editor for Road & Track or one of the other auto mags once described
> the NSX as the "best sports car in the world"....Yea, I know that was quite
> a few years ago but they do rock.
>
>  I questioned all the reviews until I drove one....for a computer brain
> instead of a carburator it handles like it is on rails and awas a joy to
> drive....great styling. I have a friend (Tom King) at Silver State who is a
> long time ORR veteran and he just put a blower on his akready very fast NSX
> and is returning in May to run the NORC. I like them but as long as I am
> dreaming give me the new midship Audi <?>
>
>  dawg
> Tom Baranek-Home <tbaranek at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  There are 3-4 Pantera/NSX people here...
> When you hear custom Borla pipes screaming at 8,000+ rpm...I dare you to
> yawn!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: michael at michaelshortt.com
> To: adin at frontier.net
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com ; Tom Baranek-Home
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tonight's debate: Vette vs. Pantera..
>
>
> Ask Tom Baranek in NC, he has a beautiful Black with Red Int NSX to match
> his Red Pantera with a Black int. Great car, no rust issues ( like it can't
> rust ), only about 270-300 hp, but they weigh nothing. If I had a big, big
> garage, it would be one of the toys I'd fill it with.
>
> Michael in Savannah
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:51 AM, wrote:
>
> Yep, the chebbies are the numbers champs. hard to beat at twice the $.
>
> Soul? None, nadda zip.
>
> If you want something soul-less, why not that Honda/Acura mid-engine
> thingy?
>
> At least it "looks" like a performance car. At a distance,I can't
> distuinguish a C-6 from the latest Miata. Its true, throw gas on me and
> light the fuse.
>
> Admittedly, the "soul" can become tiresome (the new truck motor is sure a
> beast for the street) but when you give it the foot feed it IS sweet.
>
>
>
>
> Quoting wkooiman at earthlink.net:
>
> > I completely agree with Dawg's response on this thread.
> >
> > Vettes are better in many ways, but the only way to stop the
> > yawn-o-meter is to park a real car (like a Pantera) next to it.
> >
> > I'd still like a Vette, but not at the expense of my Pantera.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >> From: msm at portata.com
> >> Sent: Oct 16, 2008 12:09 AM
> >> To: LaurieFerrari at aol.com, Detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tonight's debate: Vette vs. Pantera.. "a
> >> moment ofhonesty"
> >>
> >> By that same logic, Toyota minivans are far roomier and more
> >> comfortable than Corvettes. They get better mileage than Corvettes.
> >> They are more reliable than Corvettes. Yup, Toyota minivans kick
> >> Corvette ass.
> >>
> >>
> >> (You didn't think I would let that pass, did you? :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> >> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> >> On Behalf Of LaurieFerrari at aol.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:08 PM
> >> To: Detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Tonight's debate: Vette vs. Pantera.. "a moment
> >> ofhonesty"
> >>
> >> Let's take a moment for pure honesty: Matters not which, C5, C6 or
> >> any
> >>
> >> other Vette...you've got to admit, they are far superior in all ways:
> >> comfort, styling, speed, fuel efficiency, reliability, and proven to
> >> outperform any
> >> anti-depressant on the market. On the other hand.. the Pantera makes
> >> for a
> >> humbling balance (except for its beautiful styling) sucks on comfort,
> >> sucks on
> >> fuel efficiency, super sucks on reliability and certainly some of the
> >> vendors
> >> are a pain in the decklid! But other than that, the owners are very
> >> lovely,
> >> witty and entertaining, and so I enjoy ownership and I do appreciate my
> >> P for
> >> being "uniquely different."
> >>
> >> Laurie: might be found braless, shoeless, pantiless, moneyless,
> >> homeless.... but never Vetteless. (and now loving my C5 even better,
> >> thanks MF).
> >>
> >> p.s. regarding the polyester, nylon jacket and white shoe business,
> >> who's to say.. is that significantly worse than the attire of he who
> >> criticizes?
> >>
> >> (last comment censored and revised for purposes of diplomacy)
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Well hell my Triumph Bonneville does better then that!
> >> You still need polyester slacks, white shoes, a nylon jacket with a
> >> bunch of patches all over it before the new Vette will start........I
> >> don't care what
> >> you think.
> >> Its still butt ugly ;-]>
> >>
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