[DeTomaso] oil cooler

[Larry - Ohio Time Corp]

<<Right now it's Friday night here and I've already started drinking! :-)>>

Hey Tomas how about some feelings for the rest of us. I'll be in the office
4 more hours!!

Larry (burp) - Cleveland


-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 2:18 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] oil cooler

Mike,

Having just done this I have the installation process fairly fresh in my
memory. I installed mine vertical (John Taphorn style) on the firewall but
mine did not require a hole in the chassis. This seemed logical as my car
already had the swirl tank removed by a previous owner. Thomas T installed
his horizontal underneath the AC compressor. These both seem like a better
position than up front as even with hardline parallel to the water tubes for
the oil you're looking at quite a lot of hose plus all the transitions
between hose and hardline which in itself will introduce restriction. Let me
know if you need any more info later. Right now it's Friday night here and
I've already started drinking! :-)

Tomas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: <boyd411 at gmail.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] oil cooler


> In a message dated 10/9/08 17 13 36, boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
> 
> 
>> How complex is it to hook up an external oil cooler?
>> 
> Getting a traditional air-to-oil cooler to work in a Pantera is next to 
> impossible.   Some Pantera vendors sell kits that place one of these
coolers behind 
> a louvered panel in the wheelwell, but their effectiveness is highly
suspect, 
> and probably nil.   
> 
> Thomas Tornblom, Tomas Gunnersson, Jack DeRyke, Jason Eaton and others
have 
> successfully adapted the Laminova-built Ford Crown Victoria Police
Interceptor 
> water-to-oil heat exchanger (which is both an oil HEATER and an oil
COOLER, 
> depending upon the circumstances) into their Panteras.
> 
> Here's a short blurb w/photos from Jason's website:
> 
> http://www.jasoneaton.net/2008/04/oil-sandwich.html
> 
> Chris Difani and I have decided to attempt to generate a bolt-in kit 
> utilizing these coolers.   Just today I went trolling the junkyards in
Sacramento and 
> found two of them; we have quite a few more that are coming to us shortly
from 
> junkyards across the country that specialize in Crown Victoria police
cars.
> 
> We are still sorting out the mechanics of installing them in the Pantera.

> Most people have stuck them in the engine bay, which requires completely 
> re-plumbing the water lines, and moving things around on the firewall.
> 
> With Chris' car on the lift, we poked around and I noticed that there was 
> ample space to put the thing right behind the radiator.   You know the two
short 
> metal pipes which reach up from underneath the car and curve towards the 
> radiator outlets?   It would be fairly simple to hack the middle out of
one of 
> those, and substitute the cooler in its place.   Brackets would be needed
to 
> secure the cooler to the underside of the car.   Short flex lines would
lead to the 
> bottom of the car, and then hard lines (same size, and parallel to the
brake 
> vacuum pipe) would lead to the engine bay, where two more flex lines would

> lead to the sandwich adapter at the oil filter.
> 
> We have a ways to go yet; after we have a stack of coolers in-hand, we'll
be 
> dismantling them, replacing seals where necessary, pressure-testing them,
and 
> then we'll be using Chris' car as the guinea pig.   Stay tuned! :>)
> 
> Mike
> 
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