[DeTomaso] Oil Cooler

[michael at michaelshortt.com]

Love to hear how that works out for you, in XX years of racing I've never
heard of an under the car scoop.

My first thought is that it's a low pressure area and my second thought is
that the ground clearance isn't there and if you have that much clearance
then you need to lower the car to lower the CG to handle better/safer.

The whole idea of Ground effects to to get the air out from under the car
ASAP to create more low pressure and to suck the car down, a scoop would
seem to defeat that, but given the rough underside and the undaipered engine
bay and trans axle design, ( not like we can add tunnels around the half
shafts...ummmmmm ) maybe it doesn't mater, like I said, I love to hear how
this works.

I guess is that is scoop is going to get knocked off or ground away, so I'd
make that a thought is the mounting process so that it doesn't do any damage
if it does either.

Michael in Savannah

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29 AM, mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am presently putting in an oil cooler in the location mentioned by Goran.
> I plan on putting a scoop underneath the car. Hopefully the ram air will
> work eleminating the need for a fan. I'll be going to a track day at Daytona
> in Nov. and will get back with the results.
> Mark
>
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Göran Malmberg <hemipanter at hemipanter.se> wrote:
>
> > From: Göran Malmberg <hemipanter at hemipanter.se>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Oil Cooler
> > To: scottcouchman at yahoo.com, "mike drew" <mikeldrew at aol.com>, "Pantera
> Forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:21 AM
>  > The problem is finding a good air stream for the cooler
> > other than
> > very long hoses to the front of the car. But I like the fan
> > equipped
> > Setrab coolers. In such application it is quite suitable to
> > not have
> > it in any air stream, then it will not cool the oil while
> > the fan is not
> > on.This means faster warmups.
> > If we use a water to oil cooler will load the water cooler,
> > but
> > in any case will the total amount of heat to get rid of
> > need a
> > certain radiator cooling area. Which could be a bigger
> > water radiator or a smaller one together with an oil
> > cooler.
> >
> > If there is an oilcooler in front of the water radiator,
> > this will also load
> > the water radiator by blocking air flow and feeding it by
> > hotter air.
> >
> > I recomend a horizontally mounted Setrab thermostat fan oil
> > cooler
> > mounted  horizontally on the right side aft of the fire
> > wall at the side
> > of the inner rocker panel. then you dont need an leaky oil
> > thermostat.
> > Goran
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Couchman"
> > <scottcouchman at yahoo.com>
> > To: "mike drew" <mikeldrew at aol.com>;
> > "Pantera Forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:36 PM
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Oil Cooler
> >
> >
> > > Getting a traditional air-to-oil cooler to work in a
> > Pantera is next to
> > > impossible.
> > > Mike, why do you think the air to oil coolers
> > don't work in Panteras????
> > > Companies sell them, so I assume they work in other
> > applications. Air to
> > > water works and that's at a lower temperature
> > differential than air to
> > > oil. Are people trying to mount the oil cooler and
> > just 'scoop' air flow
> > > through without using a fan to suck air through??
> > I'm interested in
> > > cooling my oil, but I'd rather not add that
> > additional heat load to the
> > > radiator......probably a common reason. Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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